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Author Index for June 1997
"Anna S. Bjornsdottir & E.A."
<
annasb@ismennt.is
>
Jun 29, 1997 08:34 AM,
FW: attitude and choice
Jun 25, 1997 06:46 PM,
The choice of TS-agenda.
Jun 25, 1997 08:04 AM,
Einars homepage
Jun 22, 1997 07:41 PM,
RE: Theosophy
Jun 22, 1997 07:29 PM,
RE: Theosophy
"Annette Rivington"
<
libidium@globalserve.net
>
Jun 30, 1997 09:18 AM,
Re: THEOS-BUDS digest 237
"apriorip"
<
apriorip@earthlink.net
>
Jun 07, 1997 03:59 AM,
Re: Theos-World Cayce and 1998 (fwd)
Jun 07, 1997 03:28 AM,
Re: Militias
Jun 05, 1997 02:48 PM,
Re: 1975 messenger
Jun 05, 1997 01:00 PM,
Re: Silence not assent
Jun 04, 1997 03:14 AM,
Year 2000 new economics
Jun 02, 1997 12:04 PM,
Re: Thoughts about the Festivals (Sveinn)
"Bart Lidofsky"
<
bartl@sprynet.com
>
Jun 30, 1997 04:50 AM,
Re: Suggestions
Jun 29, 1997 08:47 AM,
Re: Suggestions
Jun 29, 1997 08:44 AM,
Re: Suggestions
Jun 28, 1997 02:14 PM,
Re: Suggestions
Jun 27, 1997 09:14 PM,
Re: UGLY
Jun 27, 1997 09:11 PM,
Re: URL Matter - Bart
Jun 27, 1997 05:37 AM,
Re: URL Matter
Jun 27, 1997 05:36 AM,
Re: Theos-World Announcement
Jun 26, 1997 04:56 AM,
Re: DeMolay
Jun 25, 1997 06:22 PM,
Re: A Theosophical Leader Speaks Out
Jun 24, 1997 07:30 PM,
Re: DeMolay
Jun 24, 1997 07:20 PM,
Re: DeMolay
Jun 21, 1997 12:09 PM,
Re: militias
Jun 21, 1997 12:04 PM,
Re: TS Listserver
Jun 21, 1997 11:02 AM,
Re: Transplants
Jun 21, 1997 11:00 AM,
Re: Peddling Meditation for a high price
Jun 19, 1997 06:30 PM,
Re: Bang bang!
Jun 18, 1997 04:53 AM,
Re: On the subject of militias (One has to proceed with care!!)
Jun 18, 1997 04:46 AM,
Re: Question
Jun 18, 1997 04:45 AM,
Re: Weapons Europe's problems!
Jun 17, 1997 05:28 AM,
Re: Weapons Europe's problems!
Jun 17, 1997 05:27 AM,
Re: On past issues (some questioning)
Jun 17, 1997 05:23 AM,
Re: Misstatements
Jun 17, 1997 05:20 AM,
Re: CWl
Jun 17, 1997 05:17 AM,
Re: Duality
Jun 16, 1997 05:18 AM,
Re: Misstatements
Jun 15, 1997 09:19 PM,
Re: patrickstats
Jun 15, 1997 08:31 PM,
Re: Weapons Europe's problems!
Jun 15, 1997 08:27 PM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 15, 1997 07:46 PM,
Re: On past issues (some questioning)
Jun 15, 1997 07:35 PM,
TPH Adyar
Jun 14, 1997 03:44 PM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 11:08 AM,
Re: USA
Jun 14, 1997 11:04 AM,
Re: weapons
Jun 13, 1997 08:49 PM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 05:15 PM,
Re: Disclosure statement?
Jun 13, 1997 05:06 PM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 04:47 AM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 04:43 AM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 12, 1997 05:04 AM,
Re: Regulation
Jun 11, 1997 08:02 PM,
Re: Post-modernism and Victorian theosophy
Jun 11, 1997 07:54 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 11, 1997 07:33 PM,
Re: ominousness
Jun 09, 1997 04:15 PM,
Re: Ominous pattern
Jun 09, 1997 02:35 PM,
Re: Ominous pattern
Jun 08, 1997 06:09 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 07, 1997 05:07 PM,
Re: Moral Standards
Jun 07, 1997 09:06 AM,
Re: about what Doss posted
Jun 04, 1997 07:26 PM,
Re: Future of TS
Jun 01, 1997 09:42 AM,
Krishnamurti
Jun 01, 1997 08:09 AM,
Re: The Way Ahead is probably dead
May 31, 1997 06:06 PM,
Providence Arriving, but...
"Bee Brown"
<
dewberry@poboxes.com
>
Jun 03, 1997 02:08 PM,
Re: The Way Ahead
"caruanar"
<
caruanar@rosebay.matra.com.au
>
Jun 14, 1997 01:16 AM,
Eureka, My intuition has allowed me to master this listserver
"Dr. A.M.Bain"
<
guru@nellie2.demon.co.uk
>
Jun 29, 1997 05:56 PM,
TI Welcome!
Jun 29, 1997 05:54 PM,
Re: Suggestions
Jun 29, 1997 05:18 PM,
Re: Suggestions
Jun 28, 1997 04:21 PM,
Re: Suggestions
Jun 28, 1997 04:20 PM,
Re: cwl
Jun 28, 1997 04:18 PM,
Re: Suggestions
Jun 28, 1997 04:13 PM,
Re: cwl
Jun 28, 1997 04:12 PM,
Re: UGLY
Jun 27, 1997 04:28 PM,
Re: cwl
Jun 27, 1997 04:12 PM,
Welcome!
Jun 26, 1997 06:13 PM,
UGLY
Jun 25, 1997 04:20 PM,
Re: DeMolay
Jun 24, 1997 05:24 PM,
Re: Breaking down the door to enlightenment
Jun 24, 1997 05:22 PM,
Re: child abuse
Jun 24, 1997 05:22 PM,
Human Solidarity (Brotherhood) ??
Jun 24, 1997 05:17 PM,
Re: Tillett is dead??
Jun 24, 1997 05:16 PM,
Re: Tillett
Jun 24, 1997 05:14 PM,
Re: Chuck abuse
Jun 23, 1997 06:29 PM,
Re: See you next Round. . .
Jun 23, 1997 06:23 PM,
Re: child abuse
Jun 23, 1997 06:05 PM,
Re: Theos-World Asteroids - Nostradomus and the 1999 ANTI-CHRIST
Jun 23, 1997 06:03 PM,
Chuck abuse
Jun 23, 1997 06:02 PM,
Re: Human Solidarity (Brotherhood)- no ism's
Jun 22, 1997 05:30 PM,
Re: Kalki
Jun 21, 1997 05:37 PM,
Re: Transplants
Jun 21, 1997 05:35 PM,
Re: Transplants
Jun 21, 1997 04:21 PM,
Re: Organ Donation
Jun 19, 1997 06:35 PM,
Re: A suggestion
Jun 19, 1997 06:30 PM,
CWL -The Cipher Letter
Jun 19, 1997 06:11 PM,
Tillet extract
Jun 19, 1997 05:55 PM,
Re: Your jokes are GREAT!!
Jun 19, 1997 05:54 PM,
Re: Question
Jun 19, 1997 05:48 PM,
Re: CWL
Jun 18, 1997 05:50 PM,
Bang bang!
Jun 18, 1997 05:38 PM,
Re: Karma and stuff (3)
Jun 18, 1997 05:36 PM,
Re: Karma and stuff (3)
Jun 18, 1997 05:26 PM,
Re: Karma and stuff (4 - end)
Jun 17, 1997 06:23 PM,
Re: Regarding Estrella's plea for peace
Jun 17, 1997 06:18 PM,
Re: Your jokes are GREAT!!
Jun 17, 1997 06:17 PM,
Re: Karma and stuff
Jun 17, 1997 06:12 PM,
Re: On past issues (some questioning)
Jun 17, 1997 06:08 PM,
Re: Vehicles
Jun 17, 1997 06:06 PM,
Re: CWL, to Alan
Jun 17, 1997 06:03 PM,
Re: Weapons Europe's problems!
Jun 17, 1997 06:02 PM,
CWL
Jun 16, 1997 06:28 PM,
Karma and stuff (4 - end)
Jun 16, 1997 06:23 PM,
Karma and stuff (3)
Jun 16, 1997 06:13 PM,
Karma and stuff (2)
Jun 16, 1997 06:09 PM,
Karma and stuff
Jun 16, 1997 05:50 PM,
Re: Weapons Europe's problems!
Jun 16, 1997 05:44 PM,
Re: On past issues (some questioning)
Jun 15, 1997 06:04 PM,
Re: on past history
Jun 15, 1997 05:53 PM,
Re: "Spiritual evolution."
Jun 15, 1997 05:48 PM,
Re: Guns in Singapore
Jun 15, 1997 05:46 PM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 15, 1997 05:42 PM,
Re: Words of Wisdom?
Jun 15, 1997 05:39 PM,
Re: Pants on Fire?
Jun 15, 1997 05:36 PM,
Re: USA
Jun 14, 1997 05:53 PM,
Celtic Cross
Jun 14, 1997 05:01 PM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 14, 1997 05:00 PM,
Re: On past issues (some questioning)
Jun 14, 1997 04:42 PM,
Re: weapons
Jun 14, 1997 04:40 PM,
Re: USA
Jun 14, 1997 04:38 PM,
Weapons Europe's problems!
Jun 14, 1997 04:33 PM,
"Spiritual evolution."
Jun 14, 1997 04:29 PM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 04:23 PM,
Civil war
Jun 14, 1997 04:20 PM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 14, 1997 04:16 PM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 05:23 PM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 05:15 PM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 12, 1997 05:25 PM,
WELCOME to TI!
Jun 12, 1997 05:12 PM,
Re: The coming of the Arhats
Jun 12, 1997 05:10 PM,
Re: Regulation
Jun 12, 1997 05:06 PM,
Drugs
Jun 11, 1997 05:23 PM,
Re: The coming of the Arhats
Jun 11, 1997 05:22 PM,
Re: More Stolen Secrets
Jun 11, 1997 05:20 PM,
Re: Sorry Chuck
Jun 11, 1997 05:19 PM,
Regulation
Jun 11, 1997 04:57 PM,
Weapons
Jun 09, 1997 05:48 PM,
Re: Oath of the Abyss
Jun 09, 1997 05:41 PM,
Re: Ominous pattern
Jun 08, 1997 05:07 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 07, 1997 05:23 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 06, 1997 04:41 PM,
Re: Curiosity
Jun 05, 1997 04:20 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 05, 1997 04:16 PM,
Re: Theosophical Order of Chaos
Jun 05, 1997 04:13 PM,
Re: Curiosity
Jun 04, 1997 04:40 PM,
Welcome to Theosophy International
Jun 04, 1997 04:25 PM,
Re: Curiosity
Jun 04, 1997 04:20 PM,
Re: research question
Jun 04, 1997 03:52 PM,
Re: Theosophical Order of Chaos
Jun 02, 1997 05:30 PM,
Re: research question
Jun 02, 1997 05:27 PM,
Marriage and Occult Science
Jun 01, 1997 04:54 PM,
Re: TS and its Future (Part 2 of 3)
Jun 01, 1997 04:33 PM,
Re: research question
Jun 01, 1997 04:23 PM,
Re: the way ahead
Jun 01, 1997 04:21 PM,
Orphans all ...
Jun 01, 1997 04:18 PM,
Re: Celibacy v.s. indulgence
Jun 01, 1997 04:11 PM,
Re: Providence Arriving, but...
May 31, 1997 04:50 PM,
Re: Celibacy v.s. indulgence
May 31, 1997 04:49 PM,
Re: Celibacy v.s. indulgence
May 31, 1997 04:47 PM,
Re: Celibacy v.s. indulgence
May 31, 1997 04:46 PM,
Re: The Way Ahead is probably dead
May 31, 1997 04:41 PM,
Bart needs a spanking?
May 31, 1997 04:39 PM,
Bart needs a spanking? Kinky!
May 31, 1997 04:35 PM,
Re: More questions
May 31, 1997 04:29 PM,
Re: More questions
May 31, 1997 04:27 PM,
Stop arguing with Bart
May 31, 1997 04:21 PM,
Re: The Way Ahead is probably dead
"Drpsionic"
<
Drpsionic@aol.com
>
Jun 28, 1997 08:56 AM,
Re: cwl
Jun 24, 1997 10:32 AM,
Re: child abuse
Jun 24, 1997 10:32 AM,
Re: Chuck abuse
Jun 22, 1997 09:03 PM,
Re: Child abuse
Jun 19, 1997 10:40 AM,
Re: Your jokes are GREAT!!
Jun 19, 1997 10:34 AM,
Re: Advanced technique
Jun 17, 1997 04:41 PM,
Re: CWL, to Alan
Jun 17, 1997 04:41 PM,
Re: Your jokes are GREAT!!
Jun 16, 1997 09:07 AM,
Re: Guns in Singapore
Jun 15, 1997 09:05 PM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 15, 1997 10:23 AM,
Re: Guns in Singapore
Jun 15, 1997 10:19 AM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 14, 1997 09:09 PM,
Re: USA
Jun 14, 1997 09:27 AM,
Re: The coming of the Arhats
Jun 14, 1997 09:26 AM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 09:14 PM,
Re: TGA
Jun 13, 1997 05:25 PM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 05:23 PM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 11:39 AM,
Re: Stealing Books
Jun 12, 1997 10:48 AM,
Re: The coming of the Arhats
Jun 11, 1997 08:37 AM,
Re: The coming of the Arhats
Jun 10, 1997 10:00 PM,
Re: More Stolen Secrets
Jun 09, 1997 09:30 PM,
Re: Sorry Chuck (and all)
Jun 07, 1997 11:07 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 07, 1997 11:06 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 06, 1997 11:22 PM,
convention stuff
Jun 06, 1997 11:08 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 06, 1997 09:13 PM,
Re: Sveinn Freyr' post
Jun 06, 1997 05:02 PM,
Re: On the terrible fact of militias (the dugpas in goverment are attacking!)
Jun 06, 1997 04:54 PM,
Re: Theos-World Cayce and 1998 (fwd)
Jun 05, 1997 10:51 PM,
Re: Curiosity
Jun 05, 1997 08:57 PM,
Re: Occultism vs Sex
Jun 05, 1997 05:13 PM,
Re: Celibacy
Jun 04, 1997 11:58 PM,
Re: Curiosity
Jun 04, 1997 05:24 PM,
Re: Theosophical Order of Chaos
Jun 04, 1997 11:02 AM,
Theosophical Order of Chaos
Jun 04, 1997 10:53 AM,
Re: Future of TS
Jun 04, 1997 10:51 AM,
Re: Year 2000 new economics
Jun 03, 1997 11:09 AM,
Re: Messengers
Jun 03, 1997 11:04 AM,
Re: Celibacy and Spirituality
Jun 03, 1997 11:02 AM,
Re: Marrage and Self-Indulgence
Jun 03, 1997 10:58 AM,
Re: Celebacy
Jun 01, 1997 04:38 PM,
Re: Celibacy v.s. indulgence
Jun 01, 1997 10:43 AM,
Re: Krishnamurti
Jun 01, 1997 10:39 AM,
Re: Farthing's Article
Jun 01, 1997 10:35 AM,
Re: Providence Arriving, but...
Jun 01, 1997 10:32 AM,
Re: Celibacy v.s. indulgence
Jun 01, 1997 10:30 AM,
Re: The Way Ahead is probably dead
May 31, 1997 10:36 AM,
Re: Celibacy v.s. indulgence
"DSArthur"
<
DSArthur@aol.com
>
Jun 10, 1997 10:24 AM,
Theos-L Digest 1075 and Gerry S. post
Jun 06, 1997 07:13 AM,
Dreams and Celibacy
Jun 01, 1997 08:24 AM,
Celibacy
"dslusser"
<
dslusser@indra.com
>
Jun 03, 1997 07:36 PM,
Re: High Country Theosophist
"E. J."
<
ejlight@earthlink.net
>
Jun 26, 1997 12:18 PM,
NEWS !!!
Jun 02, 1997 07:09 PM,
Thought For Food
"Einar Adalsteinsson & A.S.B."
<
annasb@ismennt.is
>
Jun 17, 1997 03:36 PM,
Karma and the personal path
Jun 15, 1997 06:00 AM,
[no subject]
"Eldon B. Tucker"
<
eldon@theosophy.com
>
Jun 22, 1997 11:09 AM,
Theosophy
Jun 17, 1997 08:11 PM,
Re: Vehicles
Jun 09, 1997 12:34 PM,
Re: Ominous pattern
Jun 07, 1997 09:53 AM,
Re: Self-Indulgence (reply to Jerry)
Jun 04, 1997 12:17 PM,
latest issues of THEOSOPHY WORLD
Jun 03, 1997 10:22 PM,
Re: Marrage and Self-Indulgence
Jun 03, 1997 09:38 PM,
regarding sex
"Gerald Schueler"
<
gschueler@netgsi.com
>
Jun 17, 1997 01:14 PM,
Vehicles
Jun 17, 1997 01:00 PM,
CWL, to Alan
Jun 16, 1997 05:13 PM,
Duality
Jun 16, 1997 05:10 PM,
Re: Reality
Jun 14, 1997 03:06 PM,
Re: ominousness
Jun 11, 1997 09:38 AM,
Stealing Books
Jun 09, 1997 02:48 PM,
Oath of the Abyss
Jun 09, 1997 02:25 PM,
Response to Dennis
Jun 05, 1997 09:45 AM,
Self-Indulgence
Jun 05, 1997 09:36 AM,
Angels and Higher Selves
Jun 05, 1997 09:33 AM,
Celibacy
Jun 05, 1997 09:30 AM,
Occultism vs Sex
Jun 02, 1997 03:04 PM,
Celebacy
Jun 02, 1997 02:58 PM,
Hinduism vs Buddhism
Jun 02, 1997 02:19 PM,
Marrage and Self-Indulgence
Jun 02, 1997 02:08 PM,
Messengers
Jun 02, 1997 02:03 PM,
Weird Dreams
Jun 02, 1997 01:08 PM,
Re: The Price of Truth
"Graye/Caldwell"
<
blafoun@azstarnet.com
>
Jun 24, 1997 09:17 AM,
Tillett is dead??
"HermesTris"
<
HermesTris@aol.com
>
Jun 12, 1997 03:15 PM,
lost mail
Jun 12, 1997 03:03 PM,
lost mail
"Jaqtarin Samantha Triele"
<
triaism@modzer0.uafdorms.alaska.edu
>
Jun 28, 1997 07:37 PM,
Re: Suggestions
Jun 18, 1997 01:19 AM,
Militias 3rd letter
Jun 17, 1997 08:20 PM,
Theosophical Aggression?
Jun 17, 1997 07:08 PM,
Re: On the subject of militias
Jun 14, 1997 11:36 PM,
Militias: new letter
Jun 14, 1997 05:49 PM,
Militias and catching up.
Jun 06, 1997 08:15 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 04, 1997 07:25 PM,
Militias
"JOSEPH PRICE"
<
JKEITHPRICE@msn.com
>
Jun 24, 1997 01:04 PM,
Goodbye Kym
Jun 23, 1997 02:58 PM,
Breaking down the door to enlightenment
Jun 22, 1997 09:11 PM,
RE: Theos-World Asteroids - Nostradomus and the 1999 ANTI-CHRIST
Jun 22, 1997 08:39 PM,
Human Solidarity (Brotherhood)- no ism's
Jun 22, 1997 11:20 AM,
[no subject]
Jun 22, 1997 10:56 AM,
Kalki
Jun 22, 1997 10:24 AM,
Nazi and Liberal Totalitarians vs. Libertarians
Jun 22, 1997 10:11 AM,
FW: Theos-World Mr. J. Price memo
Jun 21, 1997 11:07 AM,
Transplants and Clones
Jun 21, 1997 10:34 AM,
Personal or Global Morality
Jun 11, 1997 02:44 PM,
Post-modernism and Victorian theosophy
Jun 10, 1997 07:04 PM,
More Stolen Secrets
"JRC"
<
jrcecon@selway.umt.edu
>
Jun 23, 1997 02:39 PM,
Re: See you next Round. . .
Jun 23, 1997 10:20 AM,
Re: Impersonality & Arguments
Jun 21, 1997 11:40 AM,
Re: militias
Jun 14, 1997 11:23 AM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 11:15 AM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 09:54 AM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 13, 1997 10:41 AM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 09, 1997 03:37 PM,
Re: Ominous pattern
Jun 07, 1997 03:35 PM,
Re: Militias
"K. Paul Johnson"
<
pjohnson@leo.vsla.edu
>
Jun 24, 1997 06:07 AM,
Tillett
Jun 20, 1997 07:33 AM,
Elder Brother excerpts
Jun 19, 1997 12:08 PM,
Well-researched? NOT!!
Jun 18, 1997 01:54 PM,
Advanced technique
Jun 17, 1997 01:28 PM,
Sundry
Jun 16, 1997 09:32 PM,
Bart and fags
Jun 16, 1997 03:16 AM,
Misstatements
Jun 14, 1997 06:57 AM,
Patrick's stats
Jun 13, 1997 12:08 PM,
Crime statistics
Jun 13, 1997 11:37 AM,
Re: Disclosure statement?
Jun 13, 1997 05:43 AM,
Re: Ominous pattern
Jun 09, 1997 09:01 AM,
Ominous pattern
Jun 06, 1997 12:15 PM,
Theos-World Cayce and 1998 (fwd)
Jun 06, 1997 05:54 AM,
Re: Theos-World 1975 messenger
Jun 05, 1997 05:06 PM,
Rich's post
Jun 05, 1997 04:25 PM,
1975 messenger
Jun 05, 1997 01:45 PM,
Silence not assent
Jun 03, 1997 03:50 AM,
Numerous and united
Jun 02, 1997 01:10 PM,
Atman/Anatman
"Ken Malkin"
<
malkin@gil.net
>
Jun 29, 1997 08:41 PM,
Bart the 'Despoiler'
May 31, 1997 09:32 AM,
Barts wants a Spanking
"kymsmith"
<
kymsmith@micron.net
>
Jun 29, 1997 01:34 PM,
Welcome to theos, Lynn
Jun 28, 1997 02:34 PM,
Re: Suggestions
Jun 27, 1997 02:42 PM,
Re: URL Matter - Bart
Jun 23, 1997 12:32 PM,
See you next Round. . .
Jun 22, 1997 08:13 PM,
Re: Impersonality & Arguments
Jun 21, 1997 06:14 PM,
P., T., and Mr. M.
Jun 20, 1997 06:43 PM,
Patrick - take note!
Jun 20, 1997 06:35 PM,
Re: advanced technique
Jun 20, 1997 05:52 PM,
Re: What the issues aren't - Tom
Jun 19, 1997 01:27 PM,
Child abuse
Jun 19, 1997 00:34 AM,
Re: CWL
Jun 17, 1997 11:34 PM,
Re: Question
Jun 17, 1997 07:35 PM,
Re: Sundry
Jun 17, 1997 03:27 PM,
Regarding Estrella's plea for peace
Jun 16, 1997 04:59 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 16, 1997 04:53 PM,
Militias - to Lynn
Jun 15, 1997 06:31 PM,
Re: The Ideal of Peace
Jun 15, 1997 03:56 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 15, 1997 03:33 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 14, 1997 10:12 PM,
Pants on Fire?
Jun 14, 1997 09:24 PM,
Words of Wisdom?
Jun 14, 1997 08:54 PM,
Re: On past issues (some questioning)
Jun 13, 1997 04:43 PM,
TGA
Jun 13, 1997 04:36 PM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 12, 1997 11:52 PM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 12, 1997 02:53 AM,
Re: Militias
Jun 11, 1997 02:27 PM,
Re: Sorry Chuck
"liesel f. deutsch"
<
liesel@dreamscape.com
>
Jun 29, 1997 07:00 AM,
suggestions
Jun 28, 1997 00:00 AM,
to Lynn re Jocelyn Elders
Jun 27, 1997 11:50 PM,
cwl
Jun 27, 1997 12:14 PM,
karma
Jun 27, 1997 12:00 PM,
rainbow girls
Jun 27, 1997 11:57 AM,
cwl
Jun 25, 1997 04:13 PM,
Dr. Jocelyn Elders
Jun 25, 1997 03:48 PM,
non-taxation
Jun 22, 1997 06:03 PM,
naarden
Jun 22, 1997 05:56 PM,
nazis, liberals etc
Jun 22, 1997 05:49 PM,
joan in wheaton ps
Jun 22, 1997 05:47 PM,
joan at wheaton
Jun 22, 1997 05:40 PM,
cwl
Jun 22, 1997 05:19 PM,
child abuse
Jun 22, 1997 05:11 PM,
cwl
Jun 22, 1997 05:09 PM,
education
Jun 16, 1997 05:48 PM,
CWl
Jun 16, 1997 04:19 PM,
death & taxes
Jun 16, 1997 04:19 PM,
insults to jews
Jun 16, 1997 04:19 PM,
patricstats
Jun 15, 1997 03:14 PM,
war & taxes
Jun 15, 1997 02:53 PM,
on past history
Jun 15, 1997 02:41 PM,
weapons
Jun 15, 1997 02:25 PM,
to Estrella, on past issues
Jun 15, 1997 02:06 PM,
weaponry
Jun 15, 1997 01:34 PM,
patrickstats
Jun 14, 1997 06:53 AM,
weapons
Jun 14, 1997 06:49 AM,
weapons
Jun 14, 1997 06:46 AM,
weapons
Jun 14, 1997 06:43 AM,
guns
Jun 13, 1997 05:47 PM,
ominousness
Jun 13, 1997 05:01 AM,
To: Johannes, Re: lost mail
Jun 11, 1997 05:48 PM,
militia
Jun 11, 1997 09:46 AM,
Sorry Chuck
Jun 11, 1997 09:41 AM,
ominousness
Jun 08, 1997 03:59 PM,
self indulgence
Jun 07, 1997 03:34 AM,
militia
Jun 06, 1997 12:17 PM,
messengers
Jun 06, 1997 11:51 AM,
unity in diversity among theosophists
Jun 05, 1997 05:09 PM,
militia
Jun 05, 1997 04:57 PM,
about what Doss posted
Jun 05, 1997 04:37 PM,
money
Jun 04, 1997 10:51 AM,
High Coutry Theosophist PS
Jun 04, 1997 10:50 AM,
High Country Theosophist
Jun 04, 1997 09:31 AM,
celibacy/spirituality
Jun 01, 1997 11:24 AM,
sincerity
Jun 01, 1997 11:18 AM,
ts money making
Jun 01, 1997 11:07 AM,
more questions
Jun 01, 1997 10:58 AM,
Adam Warcup
Jun 01, 1997 10:42 AM,
money making in the TS
Jun 01, 1997 10:33 AM,
weird dreams
Jun 01, 1997 10:24 AM,
the way ahead
Jun 01, 1997 10:11 AM,
disclosure statement
"M K Ramadoss"
<
ramadoss@eden.com
>
Jun 27, 1997 01:40 PM,
Re: karma
Jun 19, 1997 06:54 PM,
Re: Well-researched? NOT!!
Jun 19, 1997 05:59 AM,
Re: CWL
Jun 17, 1997 05:39 PM,
Re: a big "?" to Doss
Jun 15, 1997 08:39 PM,
Re: TPH Adyar
Jun 15, 1997 08:39 PM,
Re: on past history
Jun 15, 1997 08:39 PM,
Re: to Estrella, on past issues
Jun 15, 1997 09:39 AM,
Re: Words of Wisdom? (Part 1 of 2)
Jun 15, 1997 09:39 AM,
Re: Words of Wisdom? (Part 2 of 2)
Jun 15, 1997 09:08 AM,
Re: Words of Wisdom?
Jun 14, 1997 04:52 PM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 14, 1997 04:35 PM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 07:56 AM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 05:25 AM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 09:06 PM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 06:10 PM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 07:42 AM,
Re: To: Johannes, Re: lost mail
Jun 13, 1997 05:39 AM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 11, 1997 01:23 PM,
Reincarnation and Karma
Jun 09, 1997 10:28 AM,
Re: Ominous pattern
Jun 08, 1997 09:11 PM,
1900 KH Letter to Annie Besant
Jun 08, 1997 08:15 AM,
Re: High Country Theosophist - Correction on Subscription
Jun 08, 1997 03:40 AM,
Re: HCT - 9/92
Jun 08, 1997 00:09 AM,
Re: Militias
Jun 08, 1997 00:05 AM,
Re: Militias
Jun 08, 1997 00:03 AM,
HCT - Sept 1992 -- Part 3 of 3
Jun 08, 1997 00:01 AM,
HCT - Sept 1992 - Part 2 of 3
Jun 08, 1997 00:01 AM,
HCT - Sept 1992 - Part 1 of 3
Jun 07, 1997 11:34 PM,
High Country Theosophist - Sept 1992
Jun 07, 1997 08:19 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 07, 1997 08:17 PM,
Re: Moral Standards
Jun 07, 1997 11:03 AM,
Re: Moral Standards
Jun 06, 1997 08:16 PM,
Re: Sveinn Freyr' post
Jun 06, 1997 05:00 AM,
Re: about what Doss posted
Jun 06, 1997 04:52 AM,
Re: HCT
Jun 06, 1997 04:35 AM,
Re: sex
Jun 05, 1997 11:28 AM,
Re: Future of TS
Jun 04, 1997 08:44 PM,
Re: Future of TS
Jun 04, 1997 05:37 PM,
Re: sex
Jun 04, 1997 06:34 AM,
Re: Future of TS
Jun 04, 1997 06:09 AM,
Re: regarding sex
Jun 04, 1997 06:00 AM,
Re: The Way Ahead
Jun 03, 1997 11:24 PM,
HCT Part 2 of 2
Jun 03, 1997 11:23 PM,
HCT Part 1 of 2
Jun 03, 1997 03:07 PM,
Re: Hill Country Theosophist
Jun 03, 1997 09:11 AM,
Hill Country Theosophist
Jun 03, 1997 05:28 AM,
Re: Numerous and united
Jun 03, 1997 05:23 AM,
Re: Celibacy and Spirituality
Jun 02, 1997 10:28 PM,
Re: Messengers
Jun 02, 1997 10:28 PM,
Re: Messengers
Jun 02, 1997 10:28 PM,
Re: Messengers
Jun 02, 1997 10:28 PM,
Re: Messengers
Jun 02, 1997 06:55 AM,
Re: Celibacy and Spirituality
Jun 01, 1997 09:22 PM,
Re: Celibacy and Spirituality
Jun 01, 1997 07:07 PM,
Re: Orphans all ...
Jun 01, 1997 01:24 PM,
TS and its Future (Part 3 of 3)
Jun 01, 1997 01:23 PM,
TS and its Future (Part 2 of 3)
Jun 01, 1997 01:22 PM,
TS and its Future (Part 1 of 3)
Jun 01, 1997 01:19 PM,
TS and its Future
Jun 01, 1997 12:04 PM,
Re: the way ahead
Jun 01, 1997 09:53 AM,
Re: The Way Ahead is probably dead
Jun 01, 1997 07:39 AM,
Farthing's Article
Jun 01, 1997 06:47 AM,
Re: The Way Ahead is probably dead
May 31, 1997 12:08 PM,
Re: E-linkage/flat network
"m.k. ramadoss"
<
ramadoss@eden.com
>
Jun 15, 1997 07:00 AM,
Re: Words of Wisdom?
Jun 14, 1997 12:30 PM,
Re: Inalienable/Fundmental Rights
Jun 14, 1997 12:27 PM,
Re: weapons
"Mark Kusek"
<
mark@withoutwalls.com
>
Jun 20, 1997 07:24 PM,
Organ Donation
Jun 19, 1997 00:09 AM,
The beat goes on
Jun 18, 1997 00:27 AM,
Question
Jun 04, 1997 05:40 PM,
sex
Jun 04, 1997 05:15 PM,
sex
May 31, 1997 06:37 PM,
research question
"Patrick Alessandra Jr."
<
apriorip@earthlink.net
>
Jun 18, 1997 01:12 PM,
Re: About those "militias"
Jun 18, 1997 06:20 AM,
Militias & Year 2000
Jun 17, 1997 01:09 PM,
Re: On the subject of militias (One has to proceed with care!!)
Jun 17, 1997 11:50 AM,
Re: Sundry
Jun 17, 1997 11:27 AM,
Re: CWL, to Alan
Jun 17, 1997 11:20 AM,
Re: What Patrick Thinks
Jun 16, 1997 04:25 PM,
Re: death & taxes
Jun 16, 1997 04:23 PM,
Re: insults to jews
Jun 16, 1997 04:20 PM,
Re: patricstats
Jun 16, 1997 09:20 AM,
Year 2000 [Fwd: Newsweek Article, for those who missed it]
Jun 16, 1997 06:05 AM,
Atlantis question :)
Jun 16, 1997 05:15 AM,
On Atlantis & Our times
Jun 15, 1997 03:05 PM,
Re: "Spiritual evolution."
Jun 15, 1997 03:02 PM,
Re: Militias 2
Jun 15, 1997 02:47 PM,
Re: war & taxes
Jun 15, 1997 02:24 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 15, 1997 01:34 PM,
Re: weaponry
Jun 15, 1997 01:09 PM,
Re: patrickstats
Jun 15, 1997 09:46 AM,
Re: Karma and regulation (was Regulation)
Jun 15, 1997 07:28 AM,
Re: Words of Wisdom?
Jun 15, 1997 05:28 AM,
Year 2000 planetary alignments...
Jun 15, 1997 05:17 AM,
Re: Words of Wisdom?
Jun 15, 1997 04:59 AM,
Re: Guns in Singapore
Jun 15, 1997 03:02 AM,
Re: Principles of Freedom
Jun 15, 1997 01:23 AM,
Civilization & Year 2000 software
Jun 15, 1997 01:19 AM,
Re: Civil war 2
Jun 15, 1997 00:41 AM,
Re: Civil war
Jun 14, 1997 01:15 PM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 09:36 AM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 09:30 AM,
Inalienable/Fundmental Rights
Jun 14, 1997 09:03 AM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 08:51 AM,
Re: Weapons Europe's problems
Jun 14, 1997 08:35 AM,
USA stats
Jun 14, 1997 08:22 AM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 07:10 AM,
How stats work
Jun 14, 1997 06:30 AM,
Re: USA
Jun 14, 1997 06:22 AM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 05:46 AM,
Principles of Freedom
Jun 14, 1997 05:31 AM,
Re: Patrick's stats 2
Jun 14, 1997 05:20 AM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 03:03 AM,
re: Weapons Europe's problems
Jun 14, 1997 02:30 AM,
Re: U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 12:32 PM,
U.S.A. Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 12:31 PM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 08:23 AM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 13, 1997 08:05 AM,
Psychosophy
Jun 05, 1997 03:19 PM,
Re: Militias
"Patrick Alessandra, Psy.D."
<
apriorip@earthlink.net
>
Jun 29, 1997 07:28 AM,
Hall of Records Alantis [Fwd: 1998 Prophecies]
Jun 28, 1997 06:11 PM,
Year 2000 software software issue
Jun 28, 1997 07:39 AM,
y2k & Astrology info
Jun 27, 1997 12:33 PM,
Re: karma
Jun 26, 1997 08:52 AM,
Year 2000 software issue
Jun 25, 1997 04:40 PM,
Re: non-taxation
Jun 25, 1997 04:31 PM,
Re: Dr. Jocelyn Elders
Jun 25, 1997 10:45 AM,
Theosophy & Political Values
Jun 23, 1997 03:40 PM,
Re: See you next Round. . .
Jun 23, 1997 02:09 AM,
Re: DeMolay
Jun 22, 1997 04:46 PM,
Re: education
Jun 22, 1997 04:31 PM,
Re: DeMolay
Jun 22, 1997 08:47 AM,
Re: Nazi and Liberal Totalitarians vs. Libertarians
Jun 22, 1997 08:34 AM,
Hall of Records & Cayce's predictions
Jun 22, 1997 07:47 AM,
Earthquakes & Volcanos
Jun 22, 1997 04:13 AM,
Impersonality & Arguments
Jun 21, 1997 02:38 PM,
Re: militias
Jun 21, 1997 11:08 AM,
Re: More comments on subject
Jun 21, 1997 09:56 AM,
Re: militias
Jun 20, 1997 05:15 PM,
Truth & Honesty y2k
Jun 20, 1997 05:05 PM,
Goodwill Service Meditation www page
Jun 20, 1997 04:15 PM,
Re: militias
Jun 19, 1997 06:56 AM,
Year 2000 [Fwd: Re: Strategic Investment]
Jun 09, 1997 07:41 AM,
Re: Ominous pattern
Jun 08, 1997 07:11 AM,
Year 2000 (astrology/planets)
"ramadoss"
<
ramadoss@eden.com
>
Jun 29, 1997 07:00 AM,
Re: Theos-World Announcement
Jun 28, 1997 11:56 AM,
Suggestions
Jun 27, 1997 08:34 PM,
Re: URL Matter - Bart
Jun 26, 1997 11:08 PM,
URL Matter
Jun 26, 1997 11:06 PM,
Re: Theos-World Announcement
Jun 26, 1997 11:02 PM,
Re: Theos-World Announcement
Jun 26, 1997 02:40 PM,
CDA Illegal
Jun 26, 1997 02:30 PM,
Re: NEWS !!!
Jun 25, 1997 10:52 AM,
Re: Theos-World A suggestion
Jun 25, 1997 06:18 AM,
Re: A Theosophical Leader Speaks Out
Jun 24, 1997 08:59 PM,
Re: DeMolay
Jun 24, 1997 08:59 PM,
Re: DeMolay
Jun 24, 1997 06:41 AM,
Theos-World Any theosophists in Toronto, Ontario?
Jun 24, 1997 05:03 AM,
Guru, Tradition and Freedom (Part 1 of 2)
Jun 24, 1997 05:03 AM,
Guru, Tradition and Freedom (Part 1 of 2)
Jun 23, 1997 03:55 PM,
Re: See you next Round. . .
Jun 23, 1997 03:53 PM,
Re: DeMolay
Jun 22, 1997 07:51 PM,
Re: naarden
Jun 22, 1997 07:48 PM,
RE: Naarden
Jun 22, 1997 07:42 PM,
Re: joan at wheaton
Jun 22, 1997 07:40 PM,
Re: DeMolay
Jun 22, 1997 05:17 PM,
DeMolay
Jun 22, 1997 11:13 AM,
Re: Theosophy
Jun 22, 1997 11:10 AM,
Re: Kalki
Jun 22, 1997 11:06 AM,
Re: FW: Theos-World Mr. J. Price memo
Jun 21, 1997 02:32 PM,
Re: TS Listserver
Jun 21, 1997 02:27 PM,
Re: militias
Jun 21, 1997 11:16 AM,
Re:
Jun 21, 1997 11:13 AM,
Keith's Msg
Jun 21, 1997 11:08 AM,
A Theosophical Leader Speaks Out
Jun 21, 1997 09:38 AM,
Re: Transplants
Jun 21, 1997 08:25 AM,
Transplants
Jun 21, 1997 04:54 AM,
Re: Peddling Meditation for a high price
Jun 20, 1997 08:46 PM,
Peddling Meditation for a high price
Jun 20, 1997 08:24 PM,
Re: Organ Donation
"RIhle"
<
RIhle@aol.com
>
Jun 11, 1997 04:12 PM,
Re: More Stolen Secrets
"Robert Cain"
<
rpc@vnet.net
>
Jun 15, 1997 04:16 AM,
Re: Principles of Freedom
Jun 15, 1997 04:04 AM,
Re: Weapons Europe's problems!
"Romero Cortez D. Ma"
<
fsc23890@bahia.ens.uabc.mx
>
Jun 18, 1997 02:45 PM,
About those "militias"
"Romero Cortez D.Ma"
<
fsc23890@bahia.ens.uabc.mx
>
Jun 23, 1997 05:57 PM,
The same
Jun 21, 1997 11:55 AM,
More comments on subject
Jun 19, 1997 04:44 PM,
A suggestion
Jun 18, 1997 10:39 AM,
Well....i believe not exactly....
Jun 17, 1997 02:58 PM,
a big "?" to Doss
Jun 17, 1997 02:55 PM,
On the subject of militias (One has to proceed with care!!)
Jun 17, 1997 01:05 PM,
Your jokes are GREAT!!
Jun 17, 1997 12:52 PM,
What Patrick Thinks
Jun 16, 1997 10:35 AM,
Re: THEOS-L digest 1080
Jun 14, 1997 11:50 AM,
On past issues (some questioning)
Jun 09, 1997 06:55 PM,
Sorry Chuck (and all)
Jun 07, 1997 10:55 AM,
Jaqi's issue
Jun 06, 1997 01:20 PM,
On the terrible fact of militias (the dugpas in goverment are attacking!)
Jun 04, 1997 01:36 PM,
About what MK Ramadoss posted (more on TS and it's future)
Jun 03, 1997 04:10 PM,
About what M.K.Ramadoss posted (TS and its future)
"ross martin"
<
martin@4kz.com.au
>
Jun 04, 1997 04:02 PM,
Curiosity
"Sveinn Freyr"
<
meta@vortex.is
>
Jun 10, 1997 02:55 PM,
The coming of the Arhats
Jun 02, 1997 12:47 PM,
Thoughts about the Festivals (Jim)
"Tim Maroney"
<
maroney@apple.com
>
Jun 12, 1997 07:53 PM,
Re: Ominous pattern
Jun 12, 1997 07:45 PM,
Re: Disclosure statement?
"Titus Roth"
<
titus@clisome9.rose.hp.com
>
Jun 29, 1997 09:45 AM,
Re: attitude and choice
Jun 28, 1997 07:14 PM,
How and when to Fight
Jun 24, 1997 10:50 PM,
Re: A Theosophical Leader Speaks Out
Jun 03, 1997 12:11 PM,
Re: Weird Dreams
Jun 03, 1997 12:09 PM,
Re: Marriage and Self-Indulgence
Jun 01, 1997 11:50 AM,
Re: research question
Jun 01, 1997 11:14 AM,
Re: Providence Arriving, but ...
"Tom Robertson"
<
trr@juno.com
>
Jun 24, 1997 09:40 AM,
Re: Human Solidarity (Brotherhood)- no ism's
Jun 23, 1997 05:18 PM,
Re: See you next Round. . .
Jun 22, 1997 11:01 PM,
Re: child abuse
Jun 22, 1997 11:01 PM,
Re: Impersonality & Arguments
Jun 22, 1997 12:25 PM,
Re: Nazi and Liberal Totalitarians vs. Libertarians
Jun 22, 1997 12:02 PM,
HPB on Randomness
Jun 21, 1997 04:15 PM,
Re: militias
Jun 21, 1997 04:15 PM,
The Mysterious Joan
Jun 21, 1997 10:09 AM,
Re: Transplants
Jun 21, 1997 09:03 AM,
Re: Transplants
Jun 20, 1997 06:52 PM,
Re: What the issues aren't - Tom
Jun 19, 1997 02:22 PM,
Re: Child abuse
Jun 19, 1997 02:09 PM,
Re: Well-researched? NOT!!
Jun 19, 1997 01:25 AM,
Re: CWL
Jun 18, 1997 11:11 PM,
CWL
Jun 17, 1997 10:35 PM,
Re: Sundry
Jun 17, 1997 04:37 PM,
Re: Karma and the personal path
Jun 17, 1997 04:16 PM,
Re: Sundry
Jun 16, 1997 08:13 PM,
Re: CWl
Jun 16, 1997 07:42 PM,
Re: Karma and regulation (was Regulation)
Jun 16, 1997 05:14 PM,
Re: Misstatements
Jun 15, 1997 10:47 PM,
Re: patrickstats
Jun 15, 1997 06:41 PM,
Re: The Ideal of Peace
Jun 15, 1997 06:02 PM,
The Ideal of Peace
Jun 15, 1997 10:20 AM,
Re: Pants on Fire?
Jun 15, 1997 05:23 AM,
Guns in Singapore
Jun 14, 1997 04:17 PM,
Subjective and Objective
Jun 14, 1997 01:31 PM,
Re: On past issues (some questioning)
Jun 14, 1997 01:17 PM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 01:17 PM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 10:44 AM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 10:35 AM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 14, 1997 10:35 AM,
Re: Weapons Europe's problems
Jun 13, 1997 01:00 AM,
Re: Weapons
Jun 07, 1997 11:14 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 01, 1997 11:26 PM,
Re: Celibacy and Spirituality
"Wildefire"
<
Wildefire@aol.com
>
Jun 29, 1997 12:47 PM,
Re: to Lynn re Jocelyn Elders
Jun 29, 1997 12:47 PM,
Re: to Lynn re Jocelyn Elders
Jun 29, 1997 12:47 PM,
Re: THEOS-L digest 1111
Jun 27, 1997 04:50 PM,
Re: Dr. Jocelyn Elders
Jun 23, 1997 07:03 AM,
Re: CWL
Jun 21, 1997 01:14 PM,
Re: CWL
Jun 19, 1997 12:48 PM,
Re: Well....i believe not exactly....
Jun 19, 1997 08:13 AM,
Olive branch to Kym...and thanks, Jaqi!!!
Jun 19, 1997 08:12 AM,
Re: Question
Jun 18, 1997 10:24 AM,
Re: Karma and regulation (was Regulation)
Jun 18, 1997 10:21 AM,
Re: Karma and stuff (2)
Jun 17, 1997 02:10 PM,
Re: Militias - to Lynn
Jun 17, 1997 02:10 PM,
Re: Militias - to Lynn
Jun 17, 1997 02:10 PM,
Re: Karma and stuff
Jun 17, 1997 02:10 PM,
Re: Karma and stuff (4 - end)
Jun 17, 1997 02:08 PM,
Re: Karma and stuff (3)
Jun 17, 1997 02:08 PM,
Re: Militias - to Lynn
Jun 17, 1997 02:07 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 16, 1997 12:18 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 16, 1997 12:13 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 15, 1997 04:56 PM,
Re: "Spiritual evolution."
Jun 15, 1997 04:56 PM,
Re: Patrick's stats
Jun 15, 1997 11:26 AM,
Karma and regulation (was Regulation)
Jun 15, 1997 11:25 AM,
Re: Militias
Jun 13, 1997 04:55 PM,
Re: The coming of the Arhats
Jun 11, 1997 12:36 PM,
Re: Militias
Jun 05, 1997 03:58 PM,
Re: sex
Jun 05, 1997 10:57 AM,
Re: Curiosity
Jun 04, 1997 00:41 AM,
Re: research question
Jun 03, 1997 00:39 AM,
Re: Celibacy and Spirituality
Jun 02, 1997 03:31 PM,
Re: research question
Jun 01, 1997 01:33 PM,
Re: Celibacy v.s. indulgence
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