Theos-Talk Archives (August 1997 Message tl00339)

A. Safron wrote:
> 
> Fellow Theos-l Posters:
> 
> My recent posts with Bart Lifdolsky have often left
> me puzzled.  He seemed to be twisting what I said.

	If I have, then I apologize. The only place where that might have been
true was when you compared behavior of the TS and that of Nazi Germany,
and qualified your statement in the next sentence. I took the initial
sentence, because you used such an emotionally loaded example, which, in
my opinion, overrides any subsequent explanation. If there are any other
examples, I will either explain my statement, or retract it.

> And then he openly says that he would not
> recommend this list to anyone.  Then why is he
> on this list?

	I did not say that I would not recommend this list to anyone. I said
that I would not recommend this list in a publication aimed at members
of the TSA. If I were building a comprehensive list of Theosophy on the
Internet, I would certainly mention this list. 

	As far as the reason why I am on this list, when the subject actually
gets to Theosophy, then there are opinions that I value expressed.

> My guess is that on his own or at the suggestion
> of someone else, he has been harrassing those on
> the list and making those on the list look like black
> rebels that are about to destroy the TSA Empire.

	Oh, there is no need for THAT.

> Think about it.  Why would someone diss this list?
> Because they are deadly afraid that someone is
> going to say the truth.

	It is not the factual information that I am upset about. It is the
casual, snide, put-downs, often accompanied by taking phrases out of
context, and twisting them in ways Gracie Allen would find ridiculous.

> Doss might print a historical paper that would
> reveal something.  KPJ might say something negative
> about the Masters.  Even Tom, might say that all
> women should kneel at his feet.  And Chuck, the babe,
> and me, A. Safron might talk about S&M. 

	And I have no personal problem with any of this (well, maybe with
Tom...)

> Dr. Bain?  This would be a really good time for
> you to step in and talk about TI.

	Actually, I did state that if what Dr. Bain says about his being
dismissed from the TS in England is true, then, in my opinion, he was
definitely wronged. He mentioned the possibility of posting his letter
of dismissal; I am willing to take his word for it as to the contents
(whatever else I have said about him, I have never called him a liar,
although I have disagreed with many of his conclusions), which is why I
didn't specifically request that he post it, but if he posts it anyway,
I would be interested in reading it.

	Bart