Re: Repartee versus substance
May 06, 1996 10:17 PM
by m.k. ramadoss
Hi Bee:
Your message was very refreshing to read. It is 12:15 AM here. I think if
each one of us can do a little in our own way to the best of our
understanding and ability, we will be affecting everything and everyone
around us in whatever imperceptible (for our perceptions) way.
It would be interesting to hear the feedback from other participants.
...doss
On Tue, 7 May 1996, Bee Brown wrote:
> ramadoss@eden.com wrote:
> >
> > John:
> >
> > It does not take a genius or learned pundit to open their eyes and see what
> > is going on around the world. There is continual wars of all kinds going on.
> > People kill other people for politics, religion, nationalism, you name it.
> > Look at all the refugees all over the world. Look also at the exploitaion
> > that goes in various facets of all our lives. Greed and corruption and
> > exploitation of those who really need to be protected and cared for by those
> > who are with more knowledge etc.
> >
> > An ounce of application of Universal Brotherhood will go a long way. Can one
> > person solve all world's problems. Certainly not. Can each one of us do
> > something about it in our own lives. Yes we can. If more and more of us
> > become sensitive to these issues with Universal Brotherhood as the backbone,
> > then gradually we can exponentially affect all those with whom we come into
> > contact in our daily life as well as not be involved in any activity which
> > is hurtful from the point of Universal Brotherhood.
> >
> > Am I crying in the wilderness? May be? If we do not recognize the idea of
> > Universal Brotherhood, then what are our goals and how are they going to
> > affect other living beings? This is a question each one of us can ask and
> > try to find an answer.
> >
> > ...dossI agree,Doss, and try to do my little bit in my backyard to lighten the
> atmosphere. When I read AB's book on Thoughts a few years back, I was
> really amazed to realise that I could have an effect just by what I
> thought and this has become clearer as time goes by and now I try to keep
> only thoughts that are helpful to the thought world in mind. It isn't
> easy but I keep reminding myself what I am trying to do and little by
> little many stupid thoughts are no longer there and at time there do not
> seem to be any thoughts there at all. Here in NZ I see the effects of Gov
> policy having a dreadful effects on the people who work in their dept, eg
> Inland Revenue, hospitals, Housing Corp etc. People are having stress
> leave all over the place and some just cannot work in the catch 22
> situation that has been created. Brotherhood is completely lacking and
> our politicians are a joke, after all we only have 3 mil people and most
> of them are kids or elderly so what is left????
> Sounds the same the world over. I wonder if soon something has to give. I
> think the earth is going to have a big shake and get rid of us for a
> while.
> > >
> > >Eldon wrote:
> > >
> > >> >This statement of Rich's is important, something that we overlook
> > >> >far too often. The idea of "universal brotherhood", under whatever
> > >> >sanitized words we want to call it, *is a doctrine*.
> > > No, on this I *strongly* disagree. It is not a doctrine (at
> > >as it is used in Theosophical circles), it is a *goal*, an "Object".
> > >
> > >> >As far as doctrines go, it is not any more supreme than any of
> > >> >the others. It can, though, be discussed in as great a depth as
> > >> >any of the others, going from superficial, casual descriptions
> > >> >into views that are profoundly occult.
> > > In *the Theosophy of the Adepts*, it *IS* most definately
> > >"more supreme" - it is what they *continually* stressed ... whenever
> > >anyone, from Sinnet to Hume to HPB herself, wished to make Theosophy
> > >into a study of "doctrines", or the initial practices of some sort
> > >of practical occult development, they always responded by saying
> > >that any such things had to be pursued with the understanding that
> > >it was not to be at the *expense* of the work of Universal
> > >Brotherhood, and indeed that it was only to further the service of
> > >that work that such secondary studies were to be pursued.
> > > You may evaluate it - for yourself - as being a "doctrine", the
> > >understanding of which is of no greater or lesser importance than the
> > >understanding of karma, or the races and rounds, but that is most
> > >assuredly not how the Adepts evaluated it (at least, if the ML can be
> > >taken as a sign of the importance they put on it), and in fact the ML are
> > >full of the seemingly almost continual frustration at not being able to
> > >get people to understand this (or to even take it seriously).
> > > Were someone (say Sinnet) to have actually *asked* the Adepts
> > >"What is the *single* idea you'd most like the western world to
> > >understand as the result of Theosophical work?" - what do you think they
> > >would have answered? Karma? The particular "round" the earth is in? I
> > >believe they were quite clear, in numerous places, about the privileged
> > >position of "Universal Brotherhood".
> > > It was not presented as simply one of many "doctrines" ... it
> > >was presented as a spiritual truth, who's manifestation and incarnation
> > >in human civilization they considered the single most important mission
> > >for the Theosophical Society. They did not say that study groups intended
> > >to examine occult philosophy, anthro or cosmo genesis, or even to pursue
> > >occult "development" were not appropriate activities within the larger
> > >Theosophical umbrella, but they *did* always say these things were to be
> > >pursued *in addition to*, not *instead of* the work of Universal
> > >Bortherhood.
> > > -JRC
> > >
>
> --
>
>
>
> Bee Brown
> Member TSNZ,Wanganui Branch.
> Theos Int & L
>
>
>
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