Theos-Talk Archives (February 1997 Message tl00562)

On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, C Kent wrote:

>
> With apologies to the original from which I stole this from, this is
> addressed to anyone who thinks they know the right way to live, and
> dedicated to those (like myself) who have had to work out how to survive for
> ourselves.
>
> What if?
> What if many young people today are inhabiting Aquarian bodies?
> What if many young people today have Aquarian potentialities?
> What if these people are struggling to survive in a Piscean world?
> What if the wisdom of the Piscean elders no longer applies to these people?
> What if this wisdom actually mitigates against their survival?
> What if they are having to work out how to survive any which way they can?
> What if they have to be their own elders, no matter how young they are?
> What if their bodies are screaming in pain in this Piscean world?
> What if eating meat helps reduce this pain?
> What if they are begging you to listen to their trials and
> what if you elders are too deaf to hear?
> What if?


There is an old saying that those who know don't talk and those who talk
don't know.

>
> For Aquarian substitute any more evolved root race/round you like.
>
> I constantly get into arguments over this with the retired or conservative
> TS'ers at my lodge, or even those living hippie lifestyles.  Such people can
> have ABSOLUTELY NO idea what modern young people (anything under 60 by TS
> standards ;-)  working in the corporate world are having to confront in
> their lives now.  Judge not lest ye shall be judged is all I can say to
> those who preach from on high.
>
  I would like to hear more about the conditions in corporate world.



> >Now this is interesting.  Jesus Christ (not one of my favorites but there are
> >some folks who like him), The Prophet Mohammed, George Washington, Thomas
> >Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, HPB, Col. Olcott, Thomas Edison, and Albert
> >Einstein and lots of Dalai Lamas in various incarnations were all meat
> >eaters.
> >
> >Adolf Hitler, George Arundale, and Indira Ghandi were vegetarians.
> >
> >Do I see a pattern here?
>
> Thanks Chuck, I'll use this one.  Anyone know Idi Amin's or Sadam Hussein's
> diets?

   Have you read about what Idi Amin had at the menu of a dinner for all
Ambassadors?

>
> mkr wrote
> >In all situations, I think one should use one's god given common sense. It
> >is impractical for example to expect Eskimos to be vegetarians.
>
> Ah, but are you implying that they are a spiritually inferior race which can
> never contact their higher selves in such a meat eating incarnation?
>
     First of all I do not know first hand about the higher self. Nor
have I met a person yet who tells me convincingly about he/she is in
contact with his/her/the higher self. Nor do I know if anyone group of
individuals spiritually superior or inferior. I have always claimed each
one of us is unique and many of our problems are due to the comparisons
in life.


> I'm trying to find something I thought someone (perhaps you) wrote about not
> being able to get in touch with your higher self if you eat meat.  I can't
> find it, but I would like to ask whoever wrote this,  "Who said?".  I am
> tired of patronising and contemptuous comments from superior people who say
> things like, "you obviously don't understand what working on the higher
> planes means if you think you can eat meat"  I got exactly this one today
> from an ES'er.  To her I asked the questions, "How do you know what I can
> and can't do? and  Who are you to make such a judgment?"  To which I was
> treated to the inevitable quiet smirk.  And you wonder why we get a bit
> touchy on the subject!
>

   See my comments above. Will the person who said about getting in touch
with our higher self, speak up. I am really very interested to hear.

> And another thing - I really resent this stuff about living UP to standards,
> with the implication that meat eating is DOWN and we will get UP eventually!
>
   See my comments above. Why compare any one to any one else including
ourself?

> Christine the irritable - whoops, obviously need more meat.
>
> Dang it - got caught again - irritabililty is a sign of some kind of
> spiritual inferiority or other isn't it.  Well we just can't win.
>

  Have we not heard about some people who are self controlled and cool,
but are killers and crooks. So irritability is not a sign connected with
anything spiritual, IMHO

> ;-)
>
> Christine the even more irritable
>

MKR