Re: Patanjali and VOS
Sep 10, 1996 08:46 PM
by Bee Brown
At 08:26 AM 09/09/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Will all its archaic and difficulties the VOS is a great book-teacher for
>ages to come as a roadmap of the Path.
>Regarding "The Mind is the Slayer of the Real. Let the Disciple slay the
>I simply interpreted the work "kill" as "Nirodaha" from the Yoga Sutras of
>He defines Yoga as Chitta Vritti Nirodaha, usually translated as
>'restraining' (in VOS as 'kill')
>the mental modification. The reason I went to Patanjali is because earlier
>in the Voice HPB mentions the word Dharana or "concentration" (more or
>less) from the 8 limbs or steps of the Yoga system.
>I found Taimni (Science of Yoga) translation and commentaries very useful
>on this subject.
>Peace and Harmony to all,
>We are studiying VOS at the Houston Lodge also. Chandra Joysti from the Adyar
>lodge in India is conducting the meeting over several months. He has given THE
>YOGA SUTRAS of PATANJALI written cira 500 A.D. as a possible source for some of
>the ideas presented in the VOS.
>I will try to copy some of the aphorisms, if people think it might be helpful
>for our discussion. The main idea that struck me was the similarity to Ann's
>idea that the VOICE is like a bird that looks down at the lower bird eating a
>fruit. The higher bird sees the lower bird with compassion, but is unmoved.
>Patanjali seems to come from a dualistic perspective. The idea is that the
>below is bad and the higher is GOOD. We must kill the lower and rise to the
>higher. I am not sure this is what theosophy teachers. I tend to personally
>believe in non-dualism. That is the higher is the lower, we just are conscious
>of it, but can return to non-dualism through meditation. The goal is not to
>escape the clutches of evil matter, but disidentify with the dualistic mind
>makes it opposed to the DIVINE UNITY.
If you go to the web page with Vitvans writings and have a look at the one
called The Natural Order Proccess Vol 2, you will find his explanation of
Patanjali. As I understand it, it is non-dual in essence but because we live
as if we were seperate from the Divine, the sutras appear as if that is what
they seem but it is only a method of explaining to our minds. There is no
good or bad in Reality but we live in a dualistic way and sometimes they
emphasise this fact to such an extent that they hope we will see the folly
of living that way.
>There is this trend in some theosphical writings. Many seem to have the
>cosmology of Hinduism, the ethics of Buddhism and the morality of Christianity
>in some strange (to me) mixture.
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