Jun 07, 1996 07:33 AM
by liesel f. deutsch
>Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 22:08:58 +0300
>From: Kay Ziatz <Kay_Ziatz@p4.f360.n5020.z2.fidonet.org>
>Reply-To: Kay Ziatz <Kay_Ziatz@p4.f360.n5020.z2.fidonet.org>
>Subject: Russian T.S.
> Hello Liesel!
>>I belong to TS Adyar, but I also belong to the TS in Canada, which was
>>expelled by Adyar.
> Too? What for?
>Maybe, for studying "Hiawatha"? :)
>>I think Adyar, at this point, is much too strict with
>>their requirements for adnission of Russian theosophists.
> It would be not so bad if Adyar Society was only "one of
>many". But when we talk about theosophists with non-theosop-
>hists they associate it with Adyar headquarter. And if Adyar
>does something wrong it automatically extends to all theosop-
>hists in people's opinion. Because of that an acknowledgement
>by Adyar is so important.
>> The Theosophists > on the Internet are not only Adyar Theosophists.
>> the rules of TI are a modernized version of the 3 objects.
> I think that these "three objects" are only important con-
>ditions. And most Internet theosophists share them, i hope.
> Some people say (in this list, too) that SD is wrong. But
>it cannot be a ground for expellation. HPB is famous theosop-
>hist, like Einstein is famous physicist. And physics in XX
>century is associated with name of Einstein. But if his theory
>of relativity will be refutated, it will not be end of phy-
>sics. Contrary, it will be a good progress for it!
> And studying other teachings cannot be cause of expellati-
>on, too. Because of second object of TS imposes to study dif-
>ferent teachings. I would better expell those who doesn't :)
>BTW, russian orthodox church expelled HPB (and all her follo-
>wers, too) two years ago. Since orthodox church doesn't accept
>reincarnation, HPB is now only under God's jurisdiction. So
>they placed themselves higher than God (or began believe to
>reincarnation, which is heresy, too). :)
> What I am all this writing for? HPB wrote in "Isis unvei-
>led" that there's more than 400 christian sects in USA. I af-
>raid that theosophists can "catch up & leave behind" as soviet
>enthusiasts of 30's said.
> Have theosophists ever trying to fix this situation? Here,
>using Internet, we have wider possibilities than before. Those
>who are Adyar-F.T.S. can organize letter campaign to Adyar he-
>adquarter in order to force Adyar officials begin the reinteg-
>ration process. I don't mean full reintegration but signing
>something like a "charter" on mutual acknowlegement between
>all theosophical & semi-theosophical lodges. Since theosop-
>hists are divided, their talks about "forming nucleus of brot-
>herhood" seem funny for other people, as well as other doctri-
>nes especially if latter were indeed a cause of separation.
>> about agni yoga. I've heard of it, but I don't know what it is. Is it
>> theosophy of Mme. Roerich? It's very possible that Adyar doesn't accept
> Yes. It seems to me a little strange teaching. It's devotees
>say that it's more for heart than for mind. They don't accept
>Bailey & Leadbeater. There are 14 volumes:
> 1. Call (M. garden leaves, part I) 1924
> 2. Illumiination (M. g. l. part II) 1925
> 3. Community 1926
> 4. Signs of Agni-Yoga 1929
> 5. Unlimiteness (part I) 1930
> 6. Unlimiteness (part II) 1930
> 7. Hierarchy 1931
> 8. Heart 1932
> 9. Fireworld (part I) 1933
> 10. Fireworld (part II) 1934
> 11. Fireworld (part III) 1935
> 12. Aum 1936
> 13. Brotherhood 1937
> 14. Overterral (Brotherhood part II) 1938
>I have all these in Russian, in ascii files. If someone of
>subdcribers knows russian he could obtain them from:
> www.topaz.kiev.ua ~/users/kirill
>But this server may close down soon.
>Some of these books are translated to English but I don't know which.
>W/best regards, Konstantin Zaitzev 2:5020/360.4 Fidonet
>--- Golded? Heď.
> * Origin: Nonsense (2:5020/360.4)
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