Theos-Talk Archives (June 1996 Message tl00264)

At 09:12 PM 6/4/96 -0400, you wrote:
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>        As far as I have read, I do not think he ever went any of the *best*
>schools. Have you found any specific details of the schools he attended?

You can read about his education and just about everything else concerning
his upbringing and early experiences, through 1934, in the book
"Krishnamurti, The Years of Awakening", by Mary Lutyens. (Perhaps all of you
already read this book?) It is an intimate account, not only of K, but of
AB, CWL and the evolution, including scandals, that the theosophical
movement went through during the years 1904 - 1934. And at the same time it
is, IMO, remarkably "objective".  There is no such thing as historical
objectivity, of course, but ML has made a very good job. She is
nonjudgmental, she lets the main characters speak for themselves, as well as
relating correspondence and perspectives from various other sources. Many
original letters are printed, word by word, and the reader get the
impression of "being there". ML was close, not only to K, but also to CWL.
She has no ax to grind and is "fair" to the theosophical leaders, although
she obviously is most devoted to K himself. The shortcomings, both of AB and
CWL, become apparant, without any tone of condemnation or criticism added
thereto. Credit is also given and there is an aura of understanding and
appreciation in her work. I would say that both the good and the bad is
presented without being blown out of proportion. Since the book is written
by an insider who had access to a wealth of source material it tasts
"genuine". I heartily recommend it to anyone seeking a "historical"
understanding of theosophy, including the formative years and experiences of K.

Bjorn







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>>traveled the world extensively and was given the best
>>accomodations.  With his training and the publicity he received
>>all of his life, I would have found it hard to believe that he
>>could have become anything other than a "world renound speaker."
>>He was trained to do this, and nothing else.  But was
>>Krishnamurti really what CWL thought he was?  It appears that K.
>>did not think so.  He rejected the ceremonies, the disciples, and
>>the LCC that was supposed to be the vehicle for his message.  K.
>>turned out to be a young man with enough integrity to reject what
>>he did not believe.
>>
>>On the other hand, under the expert management of Rajagopal and
>>some really slick legal maneuvers, the Krishnamurti Foundation
>>was able to sustain Krishnamurti's stature as a spiritual teacher
>>and maintain itself quite well with the income from K's
>>books and his continuing lecture tours.  During K's lifetime, he
>>was able to attract ample wealthy donors that kept him and the
>>Foundation in the financial security he grew accustomed to while
>>under the care of the Theosophical Society.
>>
>>So, regarding your question: "Was [CWL] all that off every time
>>in all `his' opinions?"  I don't know.  The odds are that CWL had
>>to have been right about some things.  But it is clear to me that
>>Krishnamurti was not one of the things he was right about.
>>
>>However, I must add that I deeply admire Krishnamurti's integrity
>>in rejecting CWL's vision and for leaving the TS.  Also, I must
>>point out that K's "Pathless land" speech reaches to the heart of
>>HPB's teachings and goes directly against CWL's.  This, I believe
>>to be evidence of real spiritual intuition on Ks part, since it
>>is unlikely that K ever read a word of HPB in his life.  I like
>>K's teachings very much, but is he the returned Christ?  I don't
>>think so.
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>        I don't think any one can be certain about whether he is the
>returned Christ or not. If he is the returned Christ, then you have the
>problem of the religions like Hindu, Buddhism, Moslem etc rejecting him
>because it is not their prophet or Avatar who is returning. Just a thought.
>If he really the returned Christ he would have had severe problems from the
>various Christian denominations all over world - some accepting and some
>rejecting.
>
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>>JHE
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>        As for his lectures, I have attended many in the mid sixties and
>early seventies. But much of what he was trying to say had an effect on me
>only later in the mid eighties onwards mainly through his video tapes. This
>is especially true of my attitude to life and those of my fellow humans and
>other living creatures. I am very grateful for it.
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>        ...Ramadoss
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