Theos-Talk Archives (June 1996 Message tl00248)

Jerry wrote:

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>Now to answer your question.  "What are the odds of chosing
>such a boy and who never passed a single examination and never
>had a formal educational certificate and who turns out to be a
>world renowned speaker?  Probably quite good considering the
>exceptional environment and training the TS gave to K.  He was
>left to want for nothing.  He was surrounded by tutors and had
>the opportunity to go to the best schools in the world.  He

        As far as I have read, I do not think he ever went any of the *best*
schools. Have you found any specific details of the schools he attended?


>traveled the world extensively and was given the best
>accomodations.  With his training and the publicity he received
>all of his life, I would have found it hard to believe that he
>could have become anything other than a "world renound speaker."
>He was trained to do this, and nothing else.  But was
>Krishnamurti really what CWL thought he was?  It appears that K.
>did not think so.  He rejected the ceremonies, the disciples, and
>the LCC that was supposed to be the vehicle for his message.  K.
>turned out to be a young man with enough integrity to reject what
>he did not believe.
>
>On the other hand, under the expert management of Rajagopal and
>some really slick legal maneuvers, the Krishnamurti Foundation
>was able to sustain Krishnamurti's stature as a spiritual teacher
>and maintain itself quite well with the income from K's
>books and his continuing lecture tours.  During K's lifetime, he
>was able to attract ample wealthy donors that kept him and the
>Foundation in the financial security he grew accustomed to while
>under the care of the Theosophical Society.
>
>So, regarding your question: "Was [CWL] all that off every time
>in all `his' opinions?"  I don't know.  The odds are that CWL had
>to have been right about some things.  But it is clear to me that
>Krishnamurti was not one of the things he was right about.
>
>However, I must add that I deeply admire Krishnamurti's integrity
>in rejecting CWL's vision and for leaving the TS.  Also, I must
>point out that K's "Pathless land" speech reaches to the heart of
>HPB's teachings and goes directly against CWL's.  This, I believe
>to be evidence of real spiritual intuition on Ks part, since it
>is unlikely that K ever read a word of HPB in his life.  I like
>K's teachings very much, but is he the returned Christ?  I don't
>think so.

        I don't think any one can be certain about whether he is the
returned Christ or not. If he is the returned Christ, then you have the
problem of the religions like Hindu, Buddhism, Moslem etc rejecting him
because it is not their prophet or Avatar who is returning. Just a thought.
If he really the returned Christ he would have had severe problems from the
various Christian denominations all over world - some accepting and some
rejecting.


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>JHE
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        As for his lectures, I have attended many in the mid sixties and
early seventies. But much of what he was trying to say had an effect on me
only later in the mid eighties onwards mainly through his video tapes. This
is especially true of my attitude to life and those of my fellow humans and
other living creatures. I am very grateful for it.


        ...Ramadoss