Theos-Talk Archives (May 1996 Message tl00883)

In message <199605151844.UAA22294@mail.euronet.nl>, Martin_Euser
<euser@euronet.nl> writes
>First of all, thank you Jerry Schueler for answering my questions
>on the GD and Enochian magic.

>>>snip<<<
>
>Personally I see no need for projections of any kind. The Spirit within,
>sometimes called the Guardian Angel, provides for initiation if the individual
>is ready and worthy and the first three initiations don't require a
>(complete) separation of soul and body.

My own experience entirely.

>I realize that there is always a big chance of misinterpretation of terms
>we use in communication. The term 'initiation' is often used in the meaning
>of 'getting acquainted with something new', 'an introduction into a party,
>an organization, an order', etc. In that sense, you will probably get
>'initiated' if you meet new people, new entities, on whatever plane. But
>that use of the term is not exactly identical with the theosophical meaning,
>although
>related.
>
>Maybe Alan Bain has something of value to say too on these topics
>(if he is willing to ). Personal E-mail may be preferable if personal
>experiences are involved.
>
>Martin
>
I am in the process of looking for a personal experience account :-)
"Initiation" is, in my terms, a beginning, and in occult parlance, a new
beginning, sometimes a "rebirth" in *this* life - different people
experiencing the same thing will use different language to try to
describe it.

I have had a number of astral projection experiences, but cannot say
that they are a means to any end, at least, not the kind I had (cf.
Muldoon & Carrington).  However, I certainly learnt a great deal just
from having them!  My personal view of Magic is that it is a way of
working that can - *can* not *does* - lead to greatly inflated egos
(vide Crowley) and could delay development rather than promote it.
Others I know would not agree.  I have mentioned before, though you may
have missed it, that although I am a kabalist, I am more in the 'hasidic
than the magical tradition.  A kind of non-jewish pharisee :-)

Alan
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