Theos-Talk Archives (April 1996 Message tl01342)

Alan,

Can something be done here on theos-l, *without taking sides* on the latest
out of control discussions?

I had some expectations when I joined theos-l, being a discussion list, but
nothing like this.

I refuse to take sides on these discussions, but if the quality and
civility of the discussions don't improve, I will have to sign-off.

Rodolfo Don

>alexis dolgorukii wrote:
>>
>> At 03:05 AM 4/28/96 -0400, you wrote:
>> >>>>>cut for continuity's sake<<<<<<<
>> >       You need not ask what the Three Objects have to do with this
>> >list, as I did not assert that anyone needed to agree with my
>> >perspective. your question should more properly, I think, be addressed to
>> >Eldon ... what does acceptance of a "body of doctrines" have to do with
>> >being on this list? It is Rich and Eldon who are trying to define
>> >parameters of discussion, not myself. Frankly, I like the list just as it
>> >is.
>> >                                               Regards, -JRC
>> >
>> >
>> >Good for you JRC. I really think it's time to stand up to bullies. I'm
>> doing so. No one can tell anyone what "Basic Theosophy" is. I have, however,
>> filtered RichTay as he's as useless to talk to as Pat Robertson. The kind of
>> theosophy that RichTay, Eldon, and Daniel Caldwell represent is exactly the
>> kind of mindless pharaseeism that Blavatsky IMO would have loathed. She,
>> like me, was "quick to loathe". This is a good list for it's probably the
>> only semi-Theosophical venues upon which any kind of actual "Free
>> Discussion" is encouraged. All the "Regulation" theosophical societies are
>> bound up in dogmatism and are not for the likes of us.
>>
>> alexis
>
>So there we have it. You have set yourself up as judge and jury on what this
>list should be. Theosophy according to H.S.H. Alexis etc. You accuse Daniel,
>for example, of bullying yet you have been doing just that in a much more
>subtle and insidious way. Systematically making remarks like above on people
>who like a view of Theosophy that you do not subscribe to. This list will be
>for the 'gang of five' very soon and you can all have your sort of "Free
>Discussion" by yourselves. This list has become a major focus for your
>philosophical views and woe be tide anyone who has the temerity to question
>your right to impose yourself on discussions that are really irrelevant to
>your point of view.
>I had my little falling out previously and had to distance myself and have a
>look at myself. I realised that I did resent being given lessons in royal
>protocol and extracts from Who's Who. I was disappointed that someone with
>your wit and standing had to respond in such a manner. I had been very
>interested in your input when you first came on this list as you had such an
>unusual background and were obviously a very intelligent and well read
>person. I am also well aware that you are quite different from the rest of us
>because of you background but that should have enriched this list not turned
>it into the battleground it seems to have become. I have had to come to a way
>of dealing with your responses that do not push my buttons so I do not take
>you seriously anymore and I am rather sorry about that.
>The way you hammer at the establishment will only serve to make them more
>entrenched and I hope Adyar does not get on e-mail because I can just see
>them receiving the benefit of your advise and so getting more convinced that
>theos-l is a danger to them. It is better to woo the opposition and lull them
>into a sense of security and then change their minds when they aren't
>looking. That does not seem to be your way of operating. I am trying to make
>things happen in my neck of the wood and already Theosophy on the Internet is
>being spoken off in negative tones because the rumours of what goes on here
>has reached the ears of quite a few who are not computer oriented. Some of us
>had planned to set up computers at our next Convention and have theos-l
>running for the participants to read but it won't be this list if it remains
>as it is. I am used to it by now but to the ordinary person it would not
>endear them to the idea of TI that we are trying to promote among non
>computer people. I am trying to put my money where my mouth is and it isn't
>easy when I have to overcome the hurdles from here first.
>I will not waste anymore time on this matter as I know it won't make the
>least difference what I think. I am just thankful that another list is in the
>making and I shall transfer myself to that so you won't have to put up with
>naive provincials who can't seem to get the curtsy right.
>RIP Theos-l  :-(
>--
>
>
>
>   Bee Brown
>   Member TSNZ,Wanganui Branch.
>   Theos Int & L