Theos-Talk Archives (August 1995 Message tl00372)

Thank you for letting me sit with the Lion's...I too will
remain unharmed, comfortable, and well rested.

I challenge you to consider the following:

Can we start a foundation that declares that regardless of ones
interpretation of truth, truth remains objective? Hmmm?

In other words no matter what man believes about his environment,
social order, morality, that belief although it may determine how
man reacts or lives it does not change objective reality.

What does the individual do when the one who rules over the
individual declares that reality is best suited to be a detriment
or dangerous to the individual? In this case it is not a matter of
right or wrong it is a matter of POWER...so now the subjective
truth is that the one with the biggest gun wins.

Is this objective? When you make an effort to understand the
difference between OBJECTIVE and SUBJECTIVE Reality remember
that OBJECTIVE reality is immovable; an OBJECT, whereas
SUBJECTIVE reality is determined by the SUBJECT. Whatever
the relative position of the observer is determines interpretation.

As I sit in front of my P590, I have a myriad of experiences and
teachers and documentation to help me make a willfull choice about laws
and life. I think that by God's grace I have been given the opportunity
to line myself up with objective truth. I have come to the determination
that I should not murder, nor steal, nor commit adultry or fornication,
etc... Now that I have made these decisions...I am most certainly
a better citizen. But is holding these values part of Objective reality
or is it subjective.

Subjective interpretation of reality has churned out the likes of
Stallin, Hitler and the ATF.

The Neuremburg Trials is a perfect example of MAN attempting to
reveal error by other men. You see the Holocaust was LEGAL. But
was it right? This is also the first time that "Acts against Humanity"
were uttered. Truthfully is was an act against objective truth.

The Law of the Land (Germany) declared the holocaust Legal , but the law
of objective reality cried out against these laws. The defense
raised documents with SS seals and signatures by the Council of 12
and Hitler himself, so those that participated could say "We were
just obeying the Law"...but the prosecution declared that LAWS do not
take away personal responsibility to act as a HUMANITARIAN.

What was the basis for such interpretations?

As an example:
If I choose to believe that gravity doesn't have an effect on me,
the the weightier matter of the LAW will certainly hold me accountable.

Why is it that the laws of Thermodynamics remain constant throughout
all humanity and time yet the Laws of Morality and the Nature of God
do not?

Theosophy tends to be so mystical and spiritual that it does no
worldly good. When the rubber meets the road and when pay dirt
is necessary for REAL life living...the jumbled utterings from
supposed masters leaves you with no real foundation.

I can prove to you that following your own interpretation or
one of the supposed masters will certainly cause you to live
a life in sinking sand.

You see Buddah declared that he knew the Truth.
Krishna uttered words that he knew the Way
Muhammed said he knew the meaing of Life.

But YHWH declared that He is the Truth, the Way and
the Life.

He is the LOGOS, THEOS and KURIOS or He is not.

Every theosophist, atheist and deist must determine who
YHWH is. YHWH is not an abstract culmination of a Jewish Man
of 33yrs of wisdom wrapped up in one cool master of many.

Objectively either YHWH's declarations are true or they are not.
They are well founded or they are not.
They are historically reliable or they are not.

DO NOT call YHWH a master. He is either Master or not.
His Masterful teachings declared Him Masters of all Masters
and the Creator of all. There is no room to call Him good
without also calling Him KING.

Do not neglect the security of your own soul.
You are responsible for wht you hear, what you say and what
you do not say.

Daniel
In the Lion's Den

Evangelical Polemist
1Pet3:15(NRSV): "but in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord.
Always be ready to make your defense to anyone who demands from
you an accounting for the hope that is in you."