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Quite right, Kym.

Oct 03, 1999 03:20 PM
by Alan


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Kym wrote to Bart (amongst a lot of other stuff):

"Too many highly quoted,
revered, and directive texts are written by and for men - and the people =
of
present day continue the cycle of perpetuating that line of thought.
Instead of examining spiritual texts in a more panoramic "world-view" - =
the
same old quotes are tossed around, expected to address today's society.
Bull." =20

Quite so.  Having examined spiritual texts over many years, especially =
in the Judeo-Christian tradition, it is very interesting to observe that =
*the translations* are mostly written by men, for men, as well as in =
order to "reinforce" a translator's/author's particular theological =
preferences.

In the text of the New Testament (which should be New  Covenant) Jesus =
is made to say in the older English versions, "He that has ears to hear, =
let him hear."  The Greek text (and finally the New Revised Standard =
Version) has him say, "Whoever has ears to hear - listen!"  Experienced =
students of these things might detect traces here of the Judaic/Aramiac =
idiom.

The idea of "Heaven" also comes from translations. Both in the Hebrew OT =
and the Greek NT the word is plural - "Heavens."  In the NT, only =
Matthew refers to "The Kingdom of the Heavens."  The other gospels use =
the term "Kingdom of God."  Interestingly, the Hebrew word for "Kingdom" =
is "Malkuth" - from Malech (King) or Malcha (Queen) and is feminine =
plural.  IOW, the "Kingdom" is a state of plurality within which is =
intended to be understood the entirety of humanity - the meaning, BTW, =
of "Adam" in Genesis.

If anyone cares to look up the quote (I'm old, lazy, and tired) there is =
a passage referring the the Temple of the Old Testament in the days of =
the uxorious (hehehehe) King Solomon, where there are women at the =
Temple Gate "weeping for Tammuz."  Tammuz was the deceased son of the =
Hebrew version of the Great Mother Goddess who, like Osiris, was done to =
death in one season to be reborn again in the next.  Maybe Solomon was =
not the good Jewish boy he is made out to be?

Advice to all, from long experience:

Don't believe something just because it is written down in a book, =
whether by a man, woman, mahatma, newspaper editor or (especially) a =
theosophist.

Love to all,

Alan the Avatar of the West, Mahatma of Middle Earth, and reincarnation =
of the god of your choice :0)

Alan@ambain.softnet.co.uk
http://www.soft.net.uk/ambain/

Alan@ambain.softnet.co.uk
http://www.soft.net.uk/ambain/

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men, for men, as well as in order to "reinforce" a translator's/author's =

particular theological preferences.</DIV>
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Jesus is=20
made to say in the older English versions, "He that has ears to hear, =
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Matthew refers to "The Kingdom of the Heavens."&nbsp; The other gospels =
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<DIV>If anyone cares to look up the quote (I'm old, lazy, and tired) =
there is a=20
passage referring the the Temple of the Old Testament in the days of the =

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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Advice to all, from long experience:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Don't believe something just because it is written down in a book, =
whether=20
by a man, woman, mahatma, newspaper editor or (especially) a =
theosophist.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Love to all,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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reincarnation of=20
the god of your choice :0)</DIV>
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