Theos-Talk Archives (September 1999 Message tl00075)

sEPT 19TH

Dear MKR:

Thanks that is very useful to remember concerning the knowledge that
HPB and the Masters showed.

If that were adequate proof that they knew as much or more than
academicians, then Students of Theosophy would be encouraged to pursue
their studies with greater confidence and diligence.

How many instances can be brought forward to demonstrate that
Theosophy is a wisdom from our combined experience in the past, and
was recorded by the Masters for us to use  ?

It also points to the difference between the "eye" and the "heart"
doctrines, or those things that are based on faith (and no adequate
proof) and the rest, which are based on KNOWLEDGE  and adequate proof
that is both universal and eternal.

Best wishes,

Dal

Dallas
dalval@nwc.net=A0

-----Original Message-----
> Subject: Atom Splitting and Truth
> From: M K Ramadoss <ramadoss@eden.com>
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:36:34 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 1

I happened to come across a very interesting passage in the
Transactions of
the Blavatsky Lodge being the discussions on the Stanzas of the First
Volume of Secret Doctrine. This contains the replies that HPB gave to
questions posed to her.

In pp. 57, she states "Therefore, water is an element, if we choose to
call
it so, *on* *this* *plane* only. In the same way, oxygen and hydrogen
in
their turn can be split up into other more subtle elements, all being
differentiations on one element or universal essence."=3D20

[highlighting is mine]

Looking back 110 years later, how far reaching is the concept of
splitting
oxygen or hydrogen is =3D96 a concept that was discussed as a very
elementary
one.=3D20

Here was a woman, who was not a scholar or scientist or a Ph.D., who
claimed
that all that she has written is from the knowledge that the Adepts
have
and she was just a scribe and many things she does not understand even
though she wrote them. =3D20

The above is followed by an interesting question and answer.

Q: Then all substances on the physical plane are really so many
correlations or combinations of these root elements, and ultimately of
the
one element?

A: Most assuredly. *In occultism it is always best to proceed from
universals to particulars*.

Obviously, the above is the key to understand many concepts that are
presented in the SD. While many may give up study of SD saying that it
is
difficult, the difficulty may be somewhat lessened if we keep the
above
principle in mind.

There is another question and answer which should make us all think.

Q: Apparently, then, the whole basis of occultism lies in this, that
there
is latent within every man a power which can give him true knowledge,
a
power of perception of truth, which enables him to deal first hand
with
universals if he will be strictly logical and face the facts. Thus we
can
proceed from universals to particulars by the innate spiritual forces
which
is in every man.

A: Quite so; this power is inherent in all, but paralyzed by our
methods of
education, and especially by the Aristotelian and Baconian methods.
Hypothesis now reigns triumphant.

Again I am astounded how simply and directly HPB has explained the
situation. In one of the Mahatma Letters, there is a mention that you
need
come into Their world. I suppose it is an allusion to the above. Also,
Krishnamurti was for 60 years was stating that you can get it
immediately,
here and now and not step by step in a far distant future life. He was
perhaps talking about getting out of the paralysis HPB states above.

Something to think about.

Mkr