Theos-Talk Archives (May 1997 Message tl00040)

At 01:17 AM 5/4/97 -0400, Titus Roth wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Apr 1997 23:48:58 -0500 M K Ramadoss <ramadoss@eden.com> wrote:
>
>> This evening when I had some opportunity to ponder over principle or law
>> of Karma, I was struck with its complexity, at least from a theoretical
>> point of view since I do not have any first hand knowledge as to how
>> laws of Karma work.
>
>> The immense complexity is easy to see. For example we interact with our
>> families and affect them and are affected by them. Similarly we interact
>> with our neighbors, friends, strangers, business associates, teachers,
>> students etc etc.
>
>[snip]
>
>> This is just for one individual. When we take into account millions of
>> individuals, the fundamental issue for me is one of orchestrating all
>> this and keeping track of the "accounting".
>
>An interesting post, Doss. When you look at it that way, the idea of
>orchestrating it all does seem rather mind boggling.
>
>> This brought up the possibility. May be in the 3 dimensional world and
>> the knowledge we have, the whole thing looks very immense and
>> staggering. May be in a higher dimension, one can see how all the
>> accounting is going on.
>
>Accounts of NDE (Near Death Experiences) hint that that may be true.  Many
>NDE-ers report knowing at an instant their whole life history. "Thinking"
>outside our gravity world appears to be holographic, or to misuse and abuse
>computer terminology, "massively parallel processing".

   This "fact" has been very clearly described in one of the letters in ML
to APS and when it does happen to me personally, I hope I will remember what
I have already read. Also, it is my gut feeling that it is the most
reasonable and logical thing and it is proper that the whole life is
reviewed so that the "high lights" are picked up for future reference.

  As we look at the complexity of nature, one cannot but recognize the
immense intelligence behind it all, whether we want to call it force, god or
whatever.

>As far as what to do in our "box system" (to paraphrase Jung's description of
>life in the world after his NDE), we can gain a better perspective on our own
>karmas, I think, by cultivating better values. Desiring things that are
>trivial or unnecessary complicates our thinking. Holding onto resentments,
>looking for scapegoats for our troubles, or thinking on misfortunes as our
>"punishment", etc., all make the world look terribly complicated and unfair.
>It also distracts us from the soul thread of our life.

    This reminds me of what I saw on TV recently. There was a program which
discussed about much of the modern day problems, the root cause was that
people not being honest. So dishonesty in any degree seem to generate its
own set of problems and they go on and on. As they say lying is the refuge
of the weak, I totally agree that if we only take responsibility ourselves,
then life can become simple and joyful.

>Patience is also helps gain a perspective on the bewildering aspects of karma.
>Sometimes it's only long after an event that we can fit it into the picture
>frame of our lives. More than one wise person has said in their later years
>that they would not change one thing in their lives - even their mistakes and
>misfortunes.

    Agree. I have seen that when event happen and they do not go the way you
want them to be, we are disappointed. But at a future date, in retrospect,
we see the pieces of the puzzle and recognise that what happened is in our
own long term interests.

    Thanks for sharing.


MKR