Theos-Talk Archives (April 1997 Message tl00076)

At 06:23 PM 4/14/97 -0400, Thoa Tran wrote:
>Titus:
>>I suppose they would have to be considered case by case.
>
>Why do you have to consider whether souls from lusty unions are highly
>evolved or not?  What about considering souls from well-bred, Leave It To
>Beaver families?  I know of many from such families that did not seem to be
>much evolved, if not downright cruel, insensitive, selfish, and
>narrow-minded.
>
    No one can say whether a lusty union will bring about a highly evolved
souls or not. 


>By your support of that soul theory, you have basically said that souls
>born of third-world nations, war torn nations, suppressed minorities, and
>the poor and the disadvantaged are not evolved.  Take any one of those
>souls, give him/her food, shelter, education and advantages that the people
>in the U.S. take for granted, and watch that person excel probably beyond
>anyone else.  Disadvantaged souls have had to endure much.  There are
>children whose mother doused them with alcohol and drugs when they were
>fetuses, causing them to develop attention deficit disorders and tendencies
>toward addiction.  There are children who are forced to focus more on being
>street wise and staying alive than on school lessons.  There are children
>beaten, neglected and abused.  There are children deprived of nourishment
>that would help their brain and body grow.  Any souls, advanced or not,
>that have to face these earth problems, are not going to be wonderful,
>developed souls.
>
       Wealth and affluent conditions can be more distructive to the person
in the long run than adverse conditions. How can adversity have any
correlation with the development of the soul.

        When you look a the affluent conditions of USA and the high crime
rate and the prisons overflowing with violent criminals and comparing it
with the peaceful life that is led by the so called aborignes, I wonder
which souls are more developed. The violent and destructive ones?

>>Some claim that highly evolved souls have the ability to overcome or mitigate
>>their childhood and ancestral baggage.
>
    Again this a only a possibility.


>And some souls with all the advantages in the world since birth seem
>soulless.  Just look at some souls in Ivy League schools and souls running
>corporations.
>
     HPB in Key to Theosophy did mention how the rich send their mediocre
children to these expensive name brand schools to make them look sharp and
intelligent.

     I remember seeing a cartoon in which an executive is shown and behind
his desk  is a chart with a high incline up. He says, this is the chart of
those people he stepped on (and even ruined) while he climbed up the
corporate ladder. This is the true situation. I agree with your comment.


>>Certainly I have seen different outcomes between nearly identical cases of
>>childhood traumas. In one case a person is able to cope with their trauma,
>>in another the person is a basket case. I attribute the difference to
>>different past-life strengths.
>
>Perhaps it is from different past-life strengths.  That I could not
>dispute.  However, I've been friends and acquaintances with people with the
>best that their parents can give them, who have never had to face
>adversity, and they're psychological basket cases.  They blame their
>parents for all their problems.  Things that I would consider only a spoil
>brat would notice.  They look at the world in terms of what they can get
>from the world, what the world owes them.  They are so self-absorbed that
>they could never sympathize with anyone else.

    The so called past life strengths is again a possibility and perhaps a
speculation. Impossible to know the real truth.

>>Also, not all works of genius are spiritual creation. I have known many
>>intellectually brilliant people whose creation was for egos sake and who
>>were a**holes.
>
>That includes just about everybody.
>

      Good to keep this in mind; it will preserve our sanity in the long run.

>Thoa