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Aug 17, 1996 09:49 AM
by Dr. A.M.Bain

To Paul K:

The bottom line to your question is that if we could reproduce it in the
laboratory we would be gods (whatever gods are).  I have an account of
an OOBE somewhere which *might* throw some light on it - but of course
we cannot 100% verify anyone's OOBE by scientific method.  Amyhow, I
will try and find the item and post it to the list for your or anyone
else's interest, as something to ponder upon, perhaps.

Defining terms: "Consciousness is knowledge of being - I know *that* I
am, though I may not know *why* I am nor *how* I am."

As for "undifferentiated consciousness" - this seems to me to be
something of a contradiction in terms.  Does it know that it's
undifferentiated?  If so, how?

"The other day upon the stair, I met a man who wasn't there.
 He wasn't there again today - I wish that he would go away."


In message <>, "Paul M.M. Kieniewicz"
<> writes
>Richard Ihle writes, and others echo a similar view that,
>>And again, that fundamental premise, it seems to me, is that Undifferentiated
>>Consciousness comes FIRST.
>Do we know what we mean by that statement? Yes - you read it in Theosophical
>articles again and again. But what does it really mean? The idea that some
>"conscousness" whatever that is, incarnates or controls a body?
>How does it do this?
>How does an incorporeal mind control a corporeal entity? Through
>Psychokinesis? Does this happen on a microscopic level, like the mind
>controling atoms, and if so - why is this process so difficult to duplicate
>in the laboratory.  Has anyone thought much about this?
>Paul K.

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