Theos-Talk Archives (April 1996 Message tl01061)

At 04:21 PM 4/24/96 -0400, you wrote:

> I think Alexis has put forth on theos-l alot of INTERESTING ideas.  For
>example,
>
>(1)  HPB was a lesbian;
>(2)  Morya was.......,   Koot Hoomi was........
>(3)  Annie Besant was a conscious fraud.
>(4)  Much of what HPB wrote on rounds and races is absolute nonsense.
>

>
>[NOTE:  Alexis, I am not picking on you.]
>

>
>Daniel: As you can see I have done significant editing to keep the "string'
from being too confusing. Let's "take it from the top". Now unlike some
other folks on this board I do not believe that disagreement represents
"picking on me", in fact I enjoy lively discussion. I only respond angrily
when people make aspersions based either upon my rank or my sexuality.

1. H.P.B. was a Lesbian. Now Daniel, what do you want? Pictures? Old Love
Letters? Personal testimony from women who went to bed with her?
   My Grandfather knew her, his very good friend Emil von und zu Sayn-
Wittgenstein-Ludwigsburg knew her very well indeed. I think their word
on the subject is relatively acceptable. Would you rather the rumor was true
that she bore Emil a child? I obviously wasn't born when she      was alive,
my Grandfather was. Either he lied to me or he didn't. I don't believe he
did, for there is no real motivation for him to do so.    She was relatively
unimportant factor in his life. Now, if you believe that her Lesbianism was
too terrible to contemplate, that's your       problem.

2. Why do you always use the phoneticised Koot Hoomi? It is not the proper
spelling and most people who seriously study this material know it. In any
case the Master "M' was, whether you approve of it or not, H.R.H.
Chandragupta Das Maurya, Maharajah of Benares, and "K.H." was H.R.H. Kuthumi
Lal singh, Maharajah of Jammu and Kashmir. In spite of what some people
think it's quite easily possible to be a Brahmin and a Maharajah, I have a
very good friend who is both at once. Let me ask you this: Was it not the
Maharajah of Benares whose family motto was: "There is no Religion Higher
Than Truth". Did not H.P.B. herself testify that she saw her "teacher" among
a group of Indian Potentates in London? Is a Maharajah not a potentate? Does
not Theosophical mythology tell us that "M" was a reincarnation of King
Asoka? Well the Maharajah of Benares was a direct descendent of King Asoka
who founded the Chandragupta Dynasty.  as to the Maharajah of Kashmir, the
late Karan Singh, Maharajah of Kashmir was a friend of mine, he was the
Grandson of Kuthumi. How else do I know? It's really none of either yours or
anyone else's business.

3. No I didn't say that Annie Besant was a conscious fraud I said I thought
she might be such a thing. It was CWL I said was a totally conscious fraud,
or at least to the degree a pathological liar could be conscious of his
frauds. Do I think Besant was a fraud? Yes I do. Why do I think so? Well I
don't know if you've read "Elder Brother" by Gregory Tillett but I have, and
frankly it totally demolishes Leadbeater and frankly, as she aided and
abetted, her with him.

4. I have already responded to this question this evening, in an earlier
posting.

alexis dolgorukii
 The Eclectic Theosophist
Shaman, Healer, Psychic