Theos-Talk Archives (April 1996 Message tl00280)

Alexis,

If I were you, I wouldn't say so loud that gays & Jews make up the bulk of
composers. It's statements like that which start antisemitic & anti gay
movements. You're asking for it. Why? Not that I know the solution to the
problem. I've been watching presentations on C-span, & watching with
astonishment how many Jews there are in responsible positions. But I can
tell you that. I'm not going to say it publicly, because that's what
anti-semites said long before the Nazis. So, actually, what I note on C-span
makes me feel a bit uneasy.

Also, if you don't mind my saying so, I don't think it's very
brother/sisterly of you to remind Alan that he's poor & that you belong to a
"superior" set of people. Alan excels in other things like Kabalah &
Christian history.

Liesel
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>At 09:59 PM 4/11/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>Alexis,
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>>Stealing another man's wife, and fooling around is, unfortunately, not
>>something very out of the ordinary. I really thought you'd come up with some
>>thing more juicy.
>>
>>Liesel
>>Member TI, TSA,TS in Canada, HR
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>Well Leisel: When I lived in Germany, my music teacher (who as you may
>remember was Mendelsohns great granddaughter, siad there had always been
>rumours that Richard Wagner mau have indulged some of Ludwig of Bavarians
>appetites to gain his financial support, especially for the Beiruth project
>which was very expensive indeed. It's also odd that Hans von Bulow remained
>Wagner's friend and chief musical supporter for the rest of their lives.
>Maybe he was glad to get rid of Cosima...Wagner married her becuase she was
>Listz's daughter and Wagner was absolutely certain (he shared Nietsche's
>racial theories) that he and Cosima would produce a bunch of musical
>geniuses. But as you know, he only produced a bunch of Nazis.
>
>Actually people like Wagner seldom are original sexually> In my list of Gay
>composers I forgot Franz Schubert, Frederick Chopin, Maurice Ravel,  Eric
>Satie, Gian Carlo Menotti, Lucas Foss, Francis Poulanc, and Olivier Messian
>if you took the Gays and the Jews out of the world of art and music there's
>be hardly anyone else.
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>alexis
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