Re: theos-l digest: December 08, 1999
Dec 09, 1999 04:53 PM
In a message dated 12/9/99 3:41:11 AM Central Standard Time,
> Grigor wrote:
> >Well, then those of us isolated from Adyar during Soviet years might
> >be lucky in that regard. Again, coming out of a time capsule, the whole
> >Krishnamurti thing appears to show what had already gone wrong in Adyar
> >TS under AB and CWL as a progressive disorder.
> I did not always think this way, but I have now come to believe that Annie
> Besant's belief about Krishnamurti being something akin to a "chosen one"
> is not any different than those who want desperately to believe that Jesus,
> Mohammad, Buddha, et. al, are people 'not of this world.'
I would say there are people "not of this world." It divides the ethically
under-motivated from the ethically hyper-motivated. People want to
believe in such, because they do not believe in themselves. To be a
Buddha is everyone's potential.
> So many people
> wish to have a "messiah"
> - I see the 'Theosophical Masters' as part of that
> phenomena as well. For many people Krishnamurti, Jesus, Buddha, the
> Masters, all provide hope and a glimpse into further Truth for some people
> - which, in itself and taken in with a discerning mind is not such a bad
> thing. Humans need and want someone who is "different" - someone who
> provides them something they cannot seem to find elsewhere.
Some humans wish clues as to how to awaken. Some wish not to be bothered.
> Annie Besant's betrayal of her own beliefs and moral system regarding
> Leadbeater, though, is distressing. I honestly believe she thought he was
> guilty and that something should have been done. But, perhaps, she was too
> afraid of what it might do to the movement itself. She bucked the system
> once, and her husband ended up taking her children from her - I am sure
> part of that profound fear of loss remained. The human part of us and the
> spiritual part of us are continually in conflict - and the human often
> seems to "win." Besant must now, in some way, carry forward and correct
> the harm done by someone she respected - just as some humans must correct
> the harm done by their own loved ones to others. All who remain silent in
> cases of child abuse (or any abuse) are, in some way, responsible for the
Welcome to the matrix or hypnomata philodoxia.
> Being human is a tough and rough road; a messy business. I don't recommend
> it to anyone.
Now you say something I can wholly agree with. But I add it is immense
privilege to be such. There may be secret in the human being the universe
has not seen before.
I could cite references but I just had 12 hour flight in wrong direction to
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