Theos-Talk Archives (October 1999 Message tl00294)

Dear Jerry,

If this is true - and in its own way it seems to me to offer no better
"answer" than creation ex nihilo by some god or another - then this
world can only get worse.  Also, in its own way, it is just as
simplistic as the "creator-god" explanation.

Sorry about that, if you believe it.

Alan

----- Original Message -----
> From: Gerald Schueler <gschueler@iximd.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 1:50 PM
> Subject: Collective Karma as Creator

> I have finally found the reference by Geshe
> Kalsang Gyatso I talked about earlier on
> collective karma:
>
> "As with all other things, this world came into
> being in dependence upon causes. Had there been
> no causes, there would be no world. The main cause
> of this world was the collective karma of the
> beings who inhabit it. Since karma originates
> in the mind, it follows that this world was
> produced principally by mind...It can only have
> been produced by the collective karma of the
> beings inhabiting this world. There is no valid
> reason for saying that it was created by Brahma,
> or any other god. The entire world arose due to
> karma, and karma arises from mind; therefore
> the actual creator of this world is mind."
>  OCEAN OF NECTURE, p. 168