Tsonkhapa & Karmamudra
Dec 07, 1998 07:14 AM
by Jerry Schueler
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Dan,
Geshe Kelsang Gyatso (Clear Light of Bliss: A commentary fo the Practice =
of Mahamudra in Vajrayana Buddhism, Tharpa Pub., 1982 & 1992.) who is =
currently out of favor of HH the Dali Lama wrote that,
"To attain the isolated mind of ultimate example clear light we muct =
have completed the power of our meditation on the channels, winds, and =
drops. Furthermore, to attain the isolated mind of ultimate example =
clear light before the clear light of death it is necessary to accept a =
qualified action mudra." (p. 105)
He is saying here that under normal circumstances, a physical consort is =
necessary for enlightenment prior to death so that the clear light of =
death will be recognized. Then he goes on to say,
"The highly realized Lama Je Tsongkhapa did not accept an action =
mudra because he was concerned for the welfare of his ordained =
followers. Although he was at the stage where he could have meditated =
with an action mudra without accumulating the slightest negativity, even =
though he was a monk, he did not do so. Why not? He wished to prtect =
those impatient disciples of the future who, thinking they could follow =
his example without being fully qualified, would have been tempted to =
take a consort prematurely and thus would have created the cause for =
lower rebirth rather than for enlightenment." (pp 105-106)
So according to Gyatso, Tsongkhapa did not practice with a karmamudra. =
Hopefully
this topic can be put to bed now.
Jerry S.
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Dan,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Geshe Kelsang Gyatso (Clear Light of =
Bliss: A=20
commentary fo the Practice of Mahamudra in Vajrayana Buddhism, Tharpa =
Pub., 1982=20
& 1992.) who is currently out of favor of HH the Dali Lama wrote=20
that,</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>"To attain the isolated =
mind of=20
ultimate example clear light we muct have completed the power of our =
meditation on the channels, winds, and drops. Furthermore, to attain =
the=20
isolated mind of ultimate example clear light before the clear light =
of=20
death it is necessary to accept a qualified action mudra." (p.=20
105)</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>He is saying here that under normal=20
circumstances, a physical consort is necessary for enlightenment prior =
to death=20
so that the clear light of death will be recognized. Then he goes on to=20
say,</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>"The highly realized =
Lama Je=20
Tsongkhapa did not accept an action mudra because he was concerned =
for the=20
welfare of his ordained followers. Although he was at the stage =
where he=20
could have meditated with an action mudra without accumulating the =
slightest=20
negativity, even though he was a monk, he did not do so. Why not? He =
wished=20
to prtect those impatient disciples of the future who, thinking they =
could=20
follow his example without being fully qualified, would have been =
tempted to=20
take a consort prematurely and thus would have created the cause for =
lower=20
rebirth rather than for enlightenment." (pp =
105-106)</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>So according to Gyatso, Tsongkhapa =
did not=20
practice with a karmamudra. Hopefully</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>this topic can =
be put to bed=20
now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Jerry S.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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