Theos-Talk Archives (April 1996 Message tl01377)

JRC writes,

> Might it just be possible that someone that has been
> trying to "grasp what HPB and the Masters have said" for a good decade
> and a half longer than you have may have come to conclusions different
> than those you currently hold?

Wow.  Wish I'd never given my age out on this list, so that it would not
continually be flung back in my face.  I know many people in their eighties
that agree with me.  That doesn't make me (and them) right -- or wrong.

Nor does your age or your length of time of study make your position
inherently any more reasonable or unreasonable.

Your quotes are good ones, and I will concede that HPB and the Masters were
not always identical in mind and intention.  And I will concede that
universal brotherhood is the first, last and central platform of the Masters
work -- now, before, and always.

But the point I am trying to make is not I think what you are arguing
against.

My point is not tht Theosophy was ever FOR the few, but that only the FEW are
able to grasp what is being taught, and for them HPB gave herself entirely.

Several on this board like to reiterate AD NAUSEUM that Theosophy has no
doctrines.  Well, if by that is meant "the Theosophical Society," this is
quite true.  Almost anyone has a right to call themselves Theosophists if
they so choose, based purely upon the three Objects.  I am NOT arguing
against that, I have no problem with it.

But the Masters state time and again that They have the true doctrines, and
that Their countless centuries of work has produced a DISTINCT body of
knowledge and doctrine.  The "many" in the Theosophical movement are
certainly welcome to believe what they like.  The "few" will actually want to
go beyond the loose restrictions of the T.S. and actually study the SPECIFIC
doctrines of Theosophy PER SE.

This is, I think, what Eldon has been trying to communicate.

It is not some kind of "forced" acceptance, and I have never used the word
"heresy" or "blasphemer" against any one on this list.  Those words were
first used against me, and then were taken up as the Cause for the "Gang" to
fight against.

But all I am saying is that the Masters have what They consider to be the
truths about things, and have endeavored to provide those "few" of us who
will have it, the barest beginnings of an inkling of what those truths
contain.  Those in the ES were privy to more than others, and the Inner Group
to even more.  Doubtless good old Damodar and Judge got even more info than
the Inner Group -- but who is to say?

JRC, we are not fighting about universal brotherhood, but about what
Theosophy is.  And it is not about control, because we each concede to the
other perfect freedom to think as he likes.

But perhaps we are arguing over what exactly HPB delivered to the masses --
theories, facts, or something in between?

 Perhaps you use "Theosophy" as a word to indicate the search for truth
altogether.  But I use it to indicate that knowledge which the Masters have,
a tiny bit of which was delivered to us through HPB.  This was not the final
word, and I think to the degree each of us follows the path you are pointing
out -- UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD -- to that degree more light will be given,
either through our own Higher natures, or through Those Who Know.

But in any case, what I object to is the continual dismissal of the teachings
of HPB and the belittling of her Teachers, who tried Their best to give out
to us as much as we were ready for.  Perhaps They gave too much ??  ( I am
not making an oblique reference necessarily to YOU ...)

In any case, when I say "Theosophy" I mean Their knowledge, and as much of it
as we pygmies can grasp of it.