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Aug 12, 1995 09:34 PM

by Jerry Schueler

There have been several discussions on scientific themes. Here are a few comments: Keith: <Blavatsky seems to deny the existence of a Jehovah type God at every term, Principles such as Motion and Space seem to be primary, but it is unclear how these could be "conscious".> Actually, she believed in such gods (and goddesses too). She did, however, deny that Jehovah was a 'supreme' god, or the 'only' god. She also taught that everything (i.e., every single thing in our universe) is conscious on its own level/subplane. My guess is that this goes for light too. BTW, life did not "originate" on Earth but life and Earth came into manifestation together in the sense that inert or 'dead' matter simply does not exist. Fred: < I view this experiment as a demonstration that information may be exchanged instanteuosly in some situations. It takes only a little imagination to believe that the monad has this capability.> I believe that this phenomenon is called Bell's Interconnectedness Theorem; a very well known (and accepted as valid) theorem of physics. And yes, I would agree that the monad has this capability. Thought itself is faster than light (i.e., think of a place, and instantly you are mentally there). Lewis: < This reminds me of the Ken Keyes book The Hundreth Monkey. Have you heard of it?> I have. In fact, lots of scientists use it to explain their pet theories - R. Sheldrake and his morphic fields comes to my mind as just one. Keith: <Light seems to be some kind of perpetrator of maya also. It glues and separates at the same time (another paradox). In other words without it ( or the subatomic forces etc.) communication or relationship would be impossible, but what it communicates is that things are separate. Isn't there a reference in the SD to this. > Yes, there is. Light (i.e., physical light, especially in its form of electricity) is called Fohat, and it is Fohat that connects the subjective I or Self with its objective Not-I or world. It both connects the I and Not-I as well as separates the two from each other. Incidently, the terms I and not-I did not originate with me (I used them a lot in my Enochian Physics) but have been around for a awhile. M. Esther Harding, a Jungian, wrote a book called "The 'I' and the 'Not-I': A study in the development of consciousness" back in 1973, and there were others as well). However, I do rather like the idea, because of its simplicity and elegance. Think of the I as a point in spacetime. Think of the Not-I as its universe symbolized as a circle as being the spacetime continuum itself. This gives the famous central dot within a circle that HPB notes in her proem to the SD. The I/dot (the center that is nowhere) is intimately connected to the Not-I/World (the circle that is everywhere) through what HPB calls Fohat; an acausal connecting principle that functions in the manner of Jung's synchronicity. Liesel: <What does a thing look like which has neither a slope nor a gradient? What's non-linear. Is it more than 2 dimensions?> First of all, it is good to hear from you again (its been awhile). Secondly, I love the Turbulent Mirror. Thirdly, slopes and gradients have to do with plotting things on various coordinate systems such as with an x and y axes. Non-linear simply means that there is no uniform relationship. When a linear relationship is plotted on a graph, it makes a straight line (which may or may not have a slope). A non-linear relationship will make a curved line. Fourthly, linear and non-linear have nothing to do with dimensions (except that relationships between parameters of systems are usually plotted on a two-dimensional graph - but not always). Fractals are plots in dimensions that are "in between." For example, something in between the 2nd and 3rd dimension would be a fractal. To make this idea easier to understand, image a piece of paper. A sheet of paper has two-dimensions, like a plane. Now crinkle the paper up into a ball. Is it now a 3-D object? In a sense it now has three dimensions, but since it is still a sheet of paper it is also a two-dimensional object - so it partakes of both 2D and 3D, and can be thought of as having an "in between" dimensional quality to it. Liesel: <I don't understand Peano & Mandelbrot's concept of infinity. If you do a circumference of Great Britain, it gets longer as you include more & more details in your measurement. It might get extremely long, but how can it become infinite? > It can approach infinity simply because the closer you look at it, the longer it becomes. Does this buck common sense? You bet. Ain't math neat! Mathematics, as a language, says that as long as you can keep on adding stuff, the overall amount of stuff that you have will approach infinity. Obviously this is in "theory" because in practice we would simply cut our measurments off at some point and go with the whatever number we had at the time (us mortals can never reach infinity, if nothing else simply because we don't live long enough. But mathematics does it with ease). Liesel: <, I realized that I had my configuration going in an ellipse, which is linear> Actually an ellipse is non-linear in that it is not plotted as a straight line, but as a curve. However, it is continuous, as opposed to discontinuous (is that what you had in mind?). An ellipse is also deterministic as opposed to chaotic. Liesel: <What means "a continuous curve can always be differentiated. What's a differential equation?> I had a whole course in differential equations in college. Ugh! ring because they allow us to predict what will happen to a system over time. However, most of them have a tiny factor tacked on at their ends which mathematicians ignored for years. My professors called it the "fudge factor" because it was something that the math puts there but no one could understand, except that you needed it in order to get the answer to come out right. The numbers for these little factors were all made up into tables - obtained experientially by knowledge over time. Anyway, these factors are non-linear and were ignored by physicists and filled in experientially by engineers. Nowdays these factors are being looked at via computers in chaos theory. They are 'chaos factors.' A "continuous curve" is one that for every x, there is a corresponding y, when plotted on a graph. A discontinuous curve is one in which there are x's without any y's or perhaps y's without corresponding x's. Any plot is discontinuous when it stops at one place and then starts again at another place (when it looks like there is a gap in the line). Our lives are continuous, because we are aware of ourselves moving through time second by second. But if we get amnesia, and then later regain our memory, we could say that our life was discontinuous because now there is a gap in our memory. Having said that, now I can say that continuous curves can be "differentiated" by solving their differential equations. The equations for discontinuous curves, however, cannot be solved. Note: Lynn Maruglies is one of the female champions of evolution via symbiosis that I mentioned in a previous message. Hope this helps. Jerry S.

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